Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "vap19592000" <vap19592000@y...> 
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> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "guynthomas" <guynthomas@y...> 
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> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "vap19592000" 
<vap19592000@y...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have this adventurous idea of hooking up a GOOD quality 
DUAL 
> > band 
> > > > (left channel and right channel) graphic equaliser to my 
> > existing 
> > > > setup....just to experiment, if I am able to "TWEAK" the 
final 
> > KIT 
> > > > sound output. Perhaps to add some brightness to my drum 
voices 
> > or 
> > > kit 
> > > > sounds. I am using a ROLAND "KC500", for amplification. The 
> > final 
> > > > output is fed to the band mixer, from the KC500.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone experimented with a GOOD GRAPHIC EQUALISER? If 
so, 
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Which particular EQUALISER would be a good choice?
> > > > 2. How will the EQUALISER connect between the DTXpress and 
the 
> > > KC500? 
> > > > and finally
> > > > 3. Does the equaliser introduction IMPROVE the sound?
> > > 
> > > I'll be the sacrificial purist here. My feeling is that 
> > equalization 
> > > is valuable only as a last resort when something is definitely 
> > wrong 
> > > with the sound, either because the source hardware/software 
is  
> > > faulty, or the room is diminishing or intensifying certain 
> > > frequencies. Otherwise, everything placed in the path of the 
> > original 
> > > signal is yet another way to degrade the signal, and the 
typical 
> > > equalizer is a prime offender in that regard. Granted, no room 
> > except 
> > > an anechoic chamber can offer flat response (and certainly few 
> > > components), but identifying and correcting room-related 
troubles 
> > is 
> > > not a simple search and destroy procedure. Of course, you are 
> > always 
> > > free to tinker and experiment with sound, and it can be a gas, 
> but 
> > > don't assume that you won't thereby introduce new problems. If 
> the 
> > > original sounds are deficient, the gain from equalization will 
> > make 
> > > them even more pronounced. I told you that I was a purist.
> > > 
> > > One way to approach this issue is to get a decent mixer with a 
> few 
> > > bands of eq for each channel. It might be overkill to run only 
> the 
> > > stereo output of the DTXpress through it, but it might come in 
> > more 
> > > handly if you connect a CD player etc. to it and/or add a 
second 
> > > module or other instruments. You'll have more control over 
> > relative 
> > > levels, effects, and equalization if you need/want it. As an 
> > example, 
> > > I currently use a Yamaha mixer to handle four to six channels 
> from 
> > my 
> > > ddrum module and two from a Yamaha module, as well as a CD 
player 
> > and 
> > > anything else that becomes necessary. I generally listen 
through 
> > > headphones and add no equalization at all.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Good explanation ED.
> > 
> > Further to that here goes for some more stuff for you.
> > 
> > As ED Eluded to most multi band EQ's are used in large sound 
> > reinforcement applications to accommodate the room and system 
> > defects.
> > Using the likes of Pink noise a flat power level can be set 
across 
> > all the frequency bands (With good engineers and equipment.)
> > 
> > If you want to change the sound of the drum kit I would personal 
> > recommend you find yourself a `parametric EQ'
> > This will enable you to select the frequency you ant to affect 
and 
> > the extent around that frequency.
> > 
> > Most Mixers have 3 band EQ's which are not appropriate for 
> modifying 
> > Drum sound effectively. (Having said that as ED says above I use 
a 
> > Yamaha mixer and don't have any EQ gain or cut)
> > 
> > High professional Mixing consoles have such EQ's . (But not the 
> > normal use ones)
> > 
> > Here are a list of frequency ranges and there effect on drum 
kits 
> it 
> > may be of use to start cutting or adding gain.
> > 
> > 80 Hz 		Boost adds weight to Kick and Toms
> > 120-150 Hz 	Boost adds punch to toms and snare
> > 6 kHz 		Boost adds sizzle to Cymbals
> > 1-2 kHz 	Boost adds definition to snare
> > 150-250Hz 	Cut reduces boxiness
> > 1 kHz 		Cut reduces harshness
> > 
> > IF you wish I have a lot more detailed info on Frequency effects.
> > The most important thing though is what does it sound like. The 
> > above may give you a point to start at but it's down to personal 
> > preferences.
> > 
> > Good luck and contact if you want any more.
> > 
> > Guy
> 
> 
> INTERESTING!!!!!!! Thanks EMF and GUY for your knowledgeable 
feedback.
> 
> GUY...What is a "PARAMETRIC" EQ?? How different is it from an 
> ordinary EQ? The frequency ranges you listed above would be of 
> enormous help to me, as This is exactly what I am trying to 
> achieve...more information would be valuable.
> BTW: How would I "introduce" the EQ to my setup? (connections)
> 
> Thanks to BOTH of you for sharing some useful knowledge!!!


Hey VAP.

A Parametric EQ is usualy 5 or 6 bands which are ajustable as follows

1) you can ajust the Cut/Gian as normal Band EQ's
2) you can ajust the centre point of the EQ Band for each band i.e. 
the EQ mid point you set to what you want not what the manufacturer 
says.
3) you can ajust the Q This afacts how wide the EQ frequency is, 
that is afected by the Cut/Gain.

Hope that explains it for you.

Guy