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Re: RHH130 Hi-hat upgrade for DTXPRESS II

2005-03-04 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jggallow" <jggallow@y...> wrote:
> It's been disappointing.  First off, without any module 
modification, 
> the zenbal cymbal carried very low volume.  For months I've been 
> modifying the settings to get it to play loud.  I just can't push 
the 
> module any higher.  I can't get adequate volume out of the cymbal.  
> On top of that, simultaneous hits with the snare and the hi-hat 
> eliminate the hi-hat strikes.  This has bummed me out.  I again 
have 
> modified the rejection settings on the module but can't keep it 
from 
> continuing.  I'm out of ideas unless someone out there has a 
similar 
> setup and has it working well.  Please let me know your tricks if 
> you're out there.

The problem of the snare cancelling the hi hat entailed a flaw in the 
specific rejection setting out of the box when the II came out. If 
I'm not mistaken, we discovered it on this board and called Yamaha's 
attention to it. It wouldn't have mattered whether the hi hat 
component were a Yamaha or any other company's, since the problem was 
with the module. Your difficulty seems too similar for coincidence, 
though you've presumably had yours long enough to have rectified it 
in the usual way. 
 
> This foul path has led me to some conclusions that may or may not 
be 
> entirely true.  My first thought is that mixing drum components 
from 
> different manufacturers is tricky and troublesome.  

This idea has more merit with mixing/matching on a Yamaha base than 
on any other company's. Most after-market e-drum gear is 
manufactured, first and foremost, to be compatible with Roland's. 
Most of the time, use with Yamaha gear won't be a total failure, 
although it has been at times, but perfect compatibility with Yamaha 
has been elusive enough at least to cause inconvenience. Pintech has 
always been one of the brands most adaptable to a Yamaha context. 

> My second thought is, naturally, it is better in my case to use a 
Yamaha-based product 
> to ensure compatability.  So if that is true, what Yamaha pad is 
the 
> right pad for me?
> 
> That has led me to research the RHH130 pad now included in the 
> DTXPRESS III.  It has the right "Look."  But I have these questions:
> 
> 1) Is this pad compatable with the DTXPRESS II module?  Will I have 
> volume issues?
> 
> 2)  How does this pad work?  The write-ups on the web say it 
attaches 
> to a standard hi-hat cymbal stand (which I have, albeit an old 
one).  
> How does a standard hi-hat stand peddle manipulate this pad?  Is 
the 
> pad split into two parts are the top and the upper and bottom 
halves 
> trigger the pedal activity?  What happens to my current hi-hat 
> pedal?  I assume that's not used anymore.

Staying within the Yamaha camp is safest, unless you have good 
information or personal experience otherwise. The RHH130 is 
compatible with the II. I don't know of any volume issues. It 
connects and behaves like your HH65. Most hi hat stands appear to 
accommodate it; it just needs proper room to clamp. The pad itself is 
stationary on the hi hat stand; it does not work like an acoustic hi 
hat, with two cymbals that open aand close. Since you use the stand 
for the foot action, your current HH65 would go to pasture, ebay, 
another board member, or perhaps to another input as a second kick 
pedal.

Ed

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