Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Thanks for the response.  I have some follow-ups:

I don't recall having any cancelling issues with the snare and hi-
hat when I used the stock TP65 pad that came with the kit.  I've 
only noticed it with since I changed to the Pintech zenbal.  Was 
this problem with the module noticible only when other 
manufacturer's components were mixed with the kit?  Also, was there 
ever a fix or patch for the "flaw"?  I really would like to find a 
solution to my current problem and not have to buy another cymbal.  
I actually like the Pintech cymbal; I just hate the low volume and 
the cancelling with simultaneous snare hits.  That's a show-stopper 
in my book!

Still a little confused on the RHH130 and the stand integration.  My 
question is how does the standard hi-hat stand pedal manipulate the 
hi-hat closing/opening sound?  what is the pedal action physically 
doing to the cymbal?  If I were to start tapping out a beat 
with the hi-hat peddle, how does that register a sound since there 
is no more hi-hat foot controller pedal that pugged into the 
module.  I assume that connection actually connects somewhere into 
the RHH130 itself (I presume the RHH130 has two cable connections 
then).  Is this correct.  If you could please describe how it 
connects.



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jggallow" <jggallow@y...> wrote:
> > It's been disappointing.  First off, without any module 
> modification, 
> > the zenbal cymbal carried very low volume.  For months I've been 
> > modifying the settings to get it to play loud.  I just can't 
push 
> the 
> > module any higher.  I can't get adequate volume out of the 
cymbal.  
> > On top of that, simultaneous hits with the snare and the hi-hat 
> > eliminate the hi-hat strikes.  This has bummed me out.  I again 
> have 
> > modified the rejection settings on the module but can't keep it 
> from 
> > continuing.  I'm out of ideas unless someone out there has a 
> similar 
> > setup and has it working well.  Please let me know your tricks 
if 
> > you're out there.
> 
> The problem of the snare cancelling the hi hat entailed a flaw in 
the 
> specific rejection setting out of the box when the II came out. If 
> I'm not mistaken, we discovered it on this board and called 
Yamaha's 
> attention to it. It wouldn't have mattered whether the hi hat 
> component were a Yamaha or any other company's, since the problem 
was 
> with the module. Your difficulty seems too similar for 
coincidence, 
> though you've presumably had yours long enough to have rectified 
it 
> in the usual way. 
>  
> > This foul path has led me to some conclusions that may or may 
not 
> be 
> > entirely true.  My first thought is that mixing drum components 
> from 
> > different manufacturers is tricky and troublesome.  
> 
> This idea has more merit with mixing/matching on a Yamaha base 
than 
> on any other company's. Most after-market e-drum gear is 
> manufactured, first and foremost, to be compatible with Roland's. 
> Most of the time, use with Yamaha gear won't be a total failure, 
> although it has been at times, but perfect compatibility with 
Yamaha 
> has been elusive enough at least to cause inconvenience. Pintech 
has 
> always been one of the brands most adaptable to a Yamaha context. 
> 
> > My second thought is, naturally, it is better in my case to use 
a 
> Yamaha-based product 
> > to ensure compatability.  So if that is true, what Yamaha pad is 
> the 
> > right pad for me?
> > 
> > That has led me to research the RHH130 pad now included in the 
> > DTXPRESS III.  It has the right "Look."  But I have these 
questions:
> > 
> > 1) Is this pad compatable with the DTXPRESS II module?  Will I 
have 
> > volume issues?
> > 
> > 2)  How does this pad work?  The write-ups on the web say it 
> attaches 
> > to a standard hi-hat cymbal stand (which I have, albeit an old 
> one).  
> > How does a standard hi-hat stand peddle manipulate this pad?  Is 
> the 
> > pad split into two parts are the top and the upper and bottom 
> halves 
> > trigger the pedal activity?  What happens to my current hi-hat 
> > pedal?  I assume that's not used anymore.
> 
> Staying within the Yamaha camp is safest, unless you have good 
> information or personal experience otherwise. The RHH130 is 
> compatible with the II. I don't know of any volume issues. It 
> connects and behaves like your HH65. Most hi hat stands appear to 
> accommodate it; it just needs proper room to clamp. The pad itself 
is 
> stationary on the hi hat stand; it does not work like an acoustic 
hi 
> hat, with two cymbals that open aand close. Since you use the 
stand 
> for the foot action, your current HH65 would go to pasture, ebay, 
> another board member, or perhaps to another input as a second kick 
> pedal.
> 
> Ed