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Re: Pintech Zenbal ZB2 (14 inch stereo cymbal)

2002-11-08 by hairytrigger

Inputs 1 thru 8 are STEREO inputs. They will trigger two sounds from 
STEREO pads. Stereo pads use two different type triggers for the pad 
and rim. A piezo transduder for the pad and a switch type trigger for 
the rim. PCY80S uses this type arrangement. Inputs 9/10 are actually 
two MONO inputs. You can use a DUAL pad, which uses two PIEZO 
triggers, or with a splitter, two separate mono pads.
There is a post that more fully explains this distinction. Anybody 
remember the message number?
Scott

--- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs except 
> > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only.
> 
> why ? it's a strereo input trigger no ? i read on DTXpress manuel 
> that if i use a mono cable only channel 9 will be used , so if i use 
> a stereo cable on a stereo pad normaly i'll gonna have 2 sound like 
> with my snare drum pad ?
> i ask that cause i just move my PCY80S cymbal pad for a hit hat use 
( 
> i need the edge for accent on hit hat ) so now i wanted to use the 
> free 9/10 input trigger for another PCY80S ( ride/crash use ) plus a 
> Bell pad ( PCY10 ) unsing my past crash input , if you are right i 
> cannot do that ;-(((((
> 
> Stephane
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > Hi Chitsman,
> > 
> > The ZB2 model is stereo like the Yamaha PCY80s and unlike, for 
> > example, the Hart Ecymbal II Ride or the Pintech CC102ST, which 
are 
> > dual mono.  Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs 
> except 
> > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "chitsman" <chitsman@s...> wrote:
> > > Hi liberatusvisrus,
> > > 
> > > I have a question regarding the Pintech Zenbals ZB2...
> > > 
> > > Is it a dual trigger cymbal or a stereo trigger, like the Yamaha 
> > > PCY80S? Which input are you plugging the ZB2 into?
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > 
> > > > The Zenbal puts the TCs to bed (no offense to those on strict 
> > > > budgets). One important consideration about the ZB2 as a ride 
> is 
> > > > that its relatively large rim and inert bell doesn't leave an 
> > > > enormous amount of room for riding; an 18" would certainly be 
> > > better 
> > > > in that respect. Maybe if Pintech has enough success with this 
> > > > model, they'll expand the line.  Personally, I hope so. I'm 
> > > > satisfied with the rebound action of the ZB2, but my reaction 
> > may 
> > > be 
> > > > subjective. Too bad the dealer wouldn't let you tinker. 
> > > > Unfortunately, my setup won't let me test it as a high hat. My 
> > gut 
> > > > feeling is that, even though its dual zone may have definite 
> > > > advantages in high-hat use, the raised rim and slender bow may 
> > make 
> > > > it awkward to manipulate a stick between one zone and the 
> other. 
> > > > Again, this may be the kind of difficulty that a resourceful 
> > > drummer 
> > > > could overcome, and, of course, the single-zone is an option 
> for 
> > > > anyone who can live without two triggers on a high-hat.  I use 
> a 
> > > > Drum Tech pole pad for high hat. Not only does it have two 
> > > distinct, 
> > > > sensitive mono triggers that can be mounted high; the rounded 
> > edge 
> > > > also allows me to play with the shaft of the stick. The 
> drawback 
> > is 
> > > > that it certainly doesn't look, or respond, like a traditional 
> > high 
> > > > hat. But, for now, I'm addicted to it. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> > > > > well first off congards on the zenbal cymbal.. i've demoed a 
> > few 
> > > > at 
> > > > > guitar center ,but haven't picked one up yet.. they seemed 
to 
> > be 
> > > > alot 
> > > > > better designed than the tc's that pintech has for e-
> cymbals.. 
> > i 
> > > > > wonder if there gonna make any other sizes though?? i'd love 
> > to 
> > > > throw 
> > > > > a 18" dual zone on my kit for a ride.. i have 9 hart e's on 
> my 
> > > > kit. 
> > > > > they're great for crashes,aux hihats,splashes,and 
china's,but 
> > > > still 
> > > > > haven't found one i like for my primary hihats,or for my 
ride 
> > > > > trigger... i'm thinking of going to the zenbal for my hats 
> > > > though.. 
> > > > > have you tried it for a hihat trigger?? i'm just wondering 
> how 
> > > the 
> > > > > stick rebound is?? when i demoed them at guitar center they 
> > had 
> > > > them 
> > > > > on crash stands and wouldn't let me move them to the hihat 
> > > > stand...   
> > > > > cool deal on getting one though i'll have to pick one up in 
> > the 
> > > > near 
> > > > > future
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > sam(otacon28)
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > > > > I've been able to get one of these in my kit, and though I 
> > > > haven't 
> > > > > > had a lot of time with it, my first impressions are really 
> > > > > > positive.  It tracks well, seems to bring out the best in 
> > the 
> > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > ride sounds (that's saying something), has a nice feel, 
and 
> > > > > > doesn't make a lot of noise. But at this point, what I 
like 
> > > best 
> > > > > > about it is that if you choose the right combination of 
> ride 
> > > for 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > body and crash for the rim, you can get that kind of 
> > symbiotic 
> > > > > > ride/crash effect that an acoustic ride will give you when 
> > it 
> > > > > swings 
> > > > > > just right.  I've never been able to get that with a 
Roland 
> > or 
> > > > > > Yamaha.  Also, the price is right.  I wonder how it stacks 
> > up 
> > > > > > against the Harts.

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