Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Someone can run a search for the post of the various triggers and 
their corresponding inputs (it actually derived from one of the 
electronic drum sites) if they feel the need, but hairytrigger's 
reply pretty much says it all. A pad with a rim switch and a piezo 
trigger--in other words, a stereo pad--is not the same as a dual-
zone or dual-mono pad, like the ones I mentioned in the Zenbal post. 
The rim switch, which is a different technology altogether, will not 
work through input 9/10.

--- In DTXpress@y..., "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> wrote:
> Inputs 1 thru 8 are STEREO inputs. They will trigger two sounds 
from 
> STEREO pads. Stereo pads use two different type triggers for the 
pad 
> and rim. A piezo transduder for the pad and a switch type trigger 
for 
> the rim. PCY80S uses this type arrangement. Inputs 9/10 are 
actually 
> two MONO inputs. You can use a DUAL pad, which uses two PIEZO 
> triggers, or with a splitter, two separate mono pads.
> There is a post that more fully explains this distinction. Anybody 
> remember the message number?
> Scott
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs except 
> > > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only.
> > 
> > why ? it's a strereo input trigger no ? i read on DTXpress 
manuel 
> > that if i use a mono cable only channel 9 will be used , so if i 
use 
> > a stereo cable on a stereo pad normaly i'll gonna have 2 sound 
like 
> > with my snare drum pad ?
> > i ask that cause i just move my PCY80S cymbal pad for a hit hat 
use 
> ( 
> > i need the edge for accent on hit hat ) so now i wanted to use 
the 
> > free 9/10 input trigger for another PCY80S ( ride/crash use ) 
plus a 
> > Bell pad ( PCY10 ) unsing my past crash input , if you are right 
i 
> > cannot do that ;-(((((
> > 
> > Stephane
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > Hi Chitsman,
> > > 
> > > The ZB2 model is stereo like the Yamaha PCY80s and unlike, for 
> > > example, the Hart Ecymbal II Ride or the Pintech CC102ST, 
which 
> are 
> > > dual mono.  Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs 
> > except 
> > > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "chitsman" <chitsman@s...> wrote:
> > > > Hi liberatusvisrus,
> > > > 
> > > > I have a question regarding the Pintech Zenbals ZB2...
> > > > 
> > > > Is it a dual trigger cymbal or a stereo trigger, like the 
Yamaha 
> > > > PCY80S? Which input are you plugging the ZB2 into?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Zenbal puts the TCs to bed (no offense to those on 
strict 
> > > > > budgets). One important consideration about the ZB2 as a 
ride 
> > is 
> > > > > that its relatively large rim and inert bell doesn't leave 
an 
> > > > > enormous amount of room for riding; an 18" would certainly 
be 
> > > > better 
> > > > > in that respect. Maybe if Pintech has enough success with 
this 
> > > > > model, they'll expand the line.  Personally, I hope so. 
I'm 
> > > > > satisfied with the rebound action of the ZB2, but my 
reaction 
> > > may 
> > > > be 
> > > > > subjective. Too bad the dealer wouldn't let you tinker. 
> > > > > Unfortunately, my setup won't let me test it as a high 
hat. My 
> > > gut 
> > > > > feeling is that, even though its dual zone may have 
definite 
> > > > > advantages in high-hat use, the raised rim and slender bow 
may 
> > > make 
> > > > > it awkward to manipulate a stick between one zone and the 
> > other. 
> > > > > Again, this may be the kind of difficulty that a 
resourceful 
> > > > drummer 
> > > > > could overcome, and, of course, the single-zone is an 
option 
> > for 
> > > > > anyone who can live without two triggers on a high-hat.  I 
use 
> > a 
> > > > > Drum Tech pole pad for high hat. Not only does it have two 
> > > > distinct, 
> > > > > sensitive mono triggers that can be mounted high; the 
rounded 
> > > edge 
> > > > > also allows me to play with the shaft of the stick. The 
> > drawback 
> > > is 
> > > > > that it certainly doesn't look, or respond, like a 
traditional 
> > > high 
> > > > > hat. But, for now, I'm addicted to it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> > > > > > well first off congards on the zenbal cymbal.. i've 
demoed a 
> > > few 
> > > > > at 
> > > > > > guitar center ,but haven't picked one up yet.. they 
seemed 
> to 
> > > be 
> > > > > alot 
> > > > > > better designed than the tc's that pintech has for e-
> > cymbals.. 
> > > i 
> > > > > > wonder if there gonna make any other sizes though?? i'd 
love 
> > > to 
> > > > > throw 
> > > > > > a 18" dual zone on my kit for a ride.. i have 9 hart e's 
on 
> > my 
> > > > > kit. 
> > > > > > they're great for crashes,aux hihats,splashes,and 
> china's,but 
> > > > > still 
> > > > > > haven't found one i like for my primary hihats,or for my 
> ride 
> > > > > > trigger... i'm thinking of going to the zenbal for my 
hats 
> > > > > though.. 
> > > > > > have you tried it for a hihat trigger?? i'm just 
wondering 
> > how 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > stick rebound is?? when i demoed them at guitar center 
they 
> > > had 
> > > > > them 
> > > > > > on crash stands and wouldn't let me move them to the 
hihat 
> > > > > stand...   
> > > > > > cool deal on getting one though i'll have to pick one up 
in 
> > > the 
> > > > > near 
> > > > > > future
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > sam(otacon28)
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> 
wrote:
> > > > > > > I've been able to get one of these in my kit, and 
though I 
> > > > > haven't 
> > > > > > > had a lot of time with it, my first impressions are 
really 
> > > > > > > positive.  It tracks well, seems to bring out the best 
in 
> > > the 
> > > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > > ride sounds (that's saying something), has a nice 
feel, 
> and 
> > > > > > > doesn't make a lot of noise. But at this point, what I 
> like 
> > > > best 
> > > > > > > about it is that if you choose the right combination 
of 
> > ride 
> > > > for 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > body and crash for the rim, you can get that kind of 
> > > symbiotic 
> > > > > > > ride/crash effect that an acoustic ride will give you 
when 
> > > it 
> > > > > > swings 
> > > > > > > just right.  I've never been able to get that with a 
> Roland 
> > > or 
> > > > > > > Yamaha.  Also, the price is right.  I wonder how it 
stacks 
> > > up 
> > > > > > > against the Harts.