so i can use the input of my past crash for a new PCY80S and the 9/10 input for the bell PCY10 , and even if i use a splitter buy another pad ? ( seem yes but i just want to be sure before buy all that ;-) Stephane --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote: > Someone can run a search for the post of the various triggers and > their corresponding inputs (it actually derived from one of the > electronic drum sites) if they feel the need, but hairytrigger's > reply pretty much says it all. A pad with a rim switch and a piezo > trigger--in other words, a stereo pad--is not the same as a dual- > zone or dual-mono pad, like the ones I mentioned in the Zenbal post. > The rim switch, which is a different technology altogether, will not > work through input 9/10. > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> wrote: > > Inputs 1 thru 8 are STEREO inputs. They will trigger two sounds > from > > STEREO pads. Stereo pads use two different type triggers for the > pad > > and rim. A piezo transduder for the pad and a switch type trigger > for > > the rim. PCY80S uses this type arrangement. Inputs 9/10 are > actually > > two MONO inputs. You can use a DUAL pad, which uses two PIEZO > > triggers, or with a splitter, two separate mono pads. > > There is a post that more fully explains this distinction. Anybody > > remember the message number? > > Scott > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote: > > > Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs except > > > > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only. > > > > > > why ? it's a strereo input trigger no ? i read on DTXpress > manuel > > > that if i use a mono cable only channel 9 will be used , so if i > use > > > a stereo cable on a stereo pad normaly i'll gonna have 2 sound > like > > > with my snare drum pad ? > > > i ask that cause i just move my PCY80S cymbal pad for a hit hat > use > > ( > > > i need the edge for accent on hit hat ) so now i wanted to use > the > > > free 9/10 input trigger for another PCY80S ( ride/crash use ) > plus a > > > Bell pad ( PCY10 ) unsing my past crash input , if you are right > i > > > cannot do that ;-((((( > > > > > > Stephane > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote: > > > > Hi Chitsman, > > > > > > > > The ZB2 model is stereo like the Yamaha PCY80s and unlike, for > > > > example, the Hart Ecymbal II Ride or the Pintech CC102ST, > which > > are > > > > dual mono. Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs > > > except > > > > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only. > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "chitsman" <chitsman@s...> wrote: > > > > > Hi liberatusvisrus, > > > > > > > > > > I have a question regarding the Pintech Zenbals ZB2... > > > > > > > > > > Is it a dual trigger cymbal or a stereo trigger, like the > Yamaha > > > > > PCY80S? Which input are you plugging the ZB2 into? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sam, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Zenbal puts the TCs to bed (no offense to those on > strict > > > > > > budgets). One important consideration about the ZB2 as a > ride > > > is > > > > > > that its relatively large rim and inert bell doesn't leave > an > > > > > > enormous amount of room for riding; an 18" would certainly > be > > > > > better > > > > > > in that respect. Maybe if Pintech has enough success with > this > > > > > > model, they'll expand the line. Personally, I hope so. > I'm > > > > > > satisfied with the rebound action of the ZB2, but my > reaction > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > subjective. Too bad the dealer wouldn't let you tinker. > > > > > > Unfortunately, my setup won't let me test it as a high > hat. My > > > > gut > > > > > > feeling is that, even though its dual zone may have > definite > > > > > > advantages in high-hat use, the raised rim and slender bow > may > > > > make > > > > > > it awkward to manipulate a stick between one zone and the > > > other. > > > > > > Again, this may be the kind of difficulty that a > resourceful > > > > > drummer > > > > > > could overcome, and, of course, the single-zone is an > option > > > for > > > > > > anyone who can live without two triggers on a high-hat. I > use > > > a > > > > > > Drum Tech pole pad for high hat. Not only does it have two > > > > > distinct, > > > > > > sensitive mono triggers that can be mounted high; the > rounded > > > > edge > > > > > > also allows me to play with the shaft of the stick. The > > > drawback > > > > is > > > > > > that it certainly doesn't look, or respond, like a > traditional > > > > high > > > > > > hat. But, for now, I'm addicted to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > well first off congards on the zenbal cymbal.. i've > demoed a > > > > few > > > > > > at > > > > > > > guitar center ,but haven't picked one up yet.. they > seemed > > to > > > > be > > > > > > alot > > > > > > > better designed than the tc's that pintech has for e- > > > cymbals.. > > > > i > > > > > > > wonder if there gonna make any other sizes though?? i'd > love > > > > to > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > a 18" dual zone on my kit for a ride.. i have 9 hart e's > on > > > my > > > > > > kit. > > > > > > > they're great for crashes,aux hihats,splashes,and > > china's,but > > > > > > still > > > > > > > haven't found one i like for my primary hihats,or for my > > ride > > > > > > > trigger... i'm thinking of going to the zenbal for my > hats > > > > > > though.. > > > > > > > have you tried it for a hihat trigger?? i'm just > wondering > > > how > > > > > the > > > > > > > stick rebound is?? when i demoed them at guitar center > they > > > > had > > > > > > them > > > > > > > on crash stands and wouldn't let me move them to the > hihat > > > > > > stand... > > > > > > > cool deal on getting one though i'll have to pick one up > in > > > > the > > > > > > near > > > > > > > future > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sam(otacon28) > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I've been able to get one of these in my kit, and > though I > > > > > > haven't > > > > > > > > had a lot of time with it, my first impressions are > really > > > > > > > > positive. It tracks well, seems to bring out the best > in > > > > the > > > > > > > Yamaha > > > > > > > > ride sounds (that's saying something), has a nice > feel, > > and > > > > > > > > doesn't make a lot of noise. But at this point, what I > > like > > > > > best > > > > > > > > about it is that if you choose the right combination > of > > > ride > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > body and crash for the rim, you can get that kind of > > > > symbiotic > > > > > > > > ride/crash effect that an acoustic ride will give you > when > > > > it > > > > > > > swings > > > > > > > > just right. I've never been able to get that with a > > Roland > > > > or > > > > > > > > Yamaha. Also, the price is right. I wonder how it > stacks > > > > up > > > > > > > > against the Harts.
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Re: Pintech Zenbal ZB2 (14 inch stereo cymbal)
2002-11-08 by dopmi
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