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Re: Pintech Zenbal ZB2 (14 inch stereo cymbal)

2002-11-08 by dopmi

so i can use the input of my past crash for a new PCY80S and the 9/10 
input for the bell PCY10 , and even if i use a splitter buy another 
pad ? ( seem yes but i just want to be sure before buy all that ;-)
Stephane 

--- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Someone can run a search for the post of the various triggers and 
> their corresponding inputs (it actually derived from one of the 
> electronic drum sites) if they feel the need, but hairytrigger's 
> reply pretty much says it all. A pad with a rim switch and a piezo 
> trigger--in other words, a stereo pad--is not the same as a dual-
> zone or dual-mono pad, like the ones I mentioned in the Zenbal 
post. 
> The rim switch, which is a different technology altogether, will 
not 
> work through input 9/10.
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> wrote:
> > Inputs 1 thru 8 are STEREO inputs. They will trigger two sounds 
> from 
> > STEREO pads. Stereo pads use two different type triggers for the 
> pad 
> > and rim. A piezo transduder for the pad and a switch type trigger 
> for 
> > the rim. PCY80S uses this type arrangement. Inputs 9/10 are 
> actually 
> > two MONO inputs. You can use a DUAL pad, which uses two PIEZO 
> > triggers, or with a splitter, two separate mono pads.
> > There is a post that more fully explains this distinction. 
Anybody 
> > remember the message number?
> > Scott
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs except 
> > > > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only.
> > > 
> > > why ? it's a strereo input trigger no ? i read on DTXpress 
> manuel 
> > > that if i use a mono cable only channel 9 will be used , so if 
i 
> use 
> > > a stereo cable on a stereo pad normaly i'll gonna have 2 sound 
> like 
> > > with my snare drum pad ?
> > > i ask that cause i just move my PCY80S cymbal pad for a hit hat 
> use 
> > ( 
> > > i need the edge for accent on hit hat ) so now i wanted to use 
> the 
> > > free 9/10 input trigger for another PCY80S ( ride/crash use ) 
> plus a 
> > > Bell pad ( PCY10 ) unsing my past crash input , if you are 
right 
> i 
> > > cannot do that ;-(((((
> > > 
> > > Stephane
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Chitsman,
> > > > 
> > > > The ZB2 model is stereo like the Yamaha PCY80s and unlike, 
for 
> > > > example, the Hart Ecymbal II Ride or the Pintech CC102ST, 
> which 
> > are 
> > > > dual mono.  Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs 
> > > except 
> > > > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "chitsman" <chitsman@s...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi liberatusvisrus,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have a question regarding the Pintech Zenbals ZB2...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is it a dual trigger cymbal or a stereo trigger, like the 
> Yamaha 
> > > > > PCY80S? Which input are you plugging the ZB2 into?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Zenbal puts the TCs to bed (no offense to those on 
> strict 
> > > > > > budgets). One important consideration about the ZB2 as a 
> ride 
> > > is 
> > > > > > that its relatively large rim and inert bell doesn't 
leave 
> an 
> > > > > > enormous amount of room for riding; an 18" would 
certainly 
> be 
> > > > > better 
> > > > > > in that respect. Maybe if Pintech has enough success with 
> this 
> > > > > > model, they'll expand the line.  Personally, I hope so. 
> I'm 
> > > > > > satisfied with the rebound action of the ZB2, but my 
> reaction 
> > > > may 
> > > > > be 
> > > > > > subjective. Too bad the dealer wouldn't let you tinker. 
> > > > > > Unfortunately, my setup won't let me test it as a high 
> hat. My 
> > > > gut 
> > > > > > feeling is that, even though its dual zone may have 
> definite 
> > > > > > advantages in high-hat use, the raised rim and slender 
bow 
> may 
> > > > make 
> > > > > > it awkward to manipulate a stick between one zone and the 
> > > other. 
> > > > > > Again, this may be the kind of difficulty that a 
> resourceful 
> > > > > drummer 
> > > > > > could overcome, and, of course, the single-zone is an 
> option 
> > > for 
> > > > > > anyone who can live without two triggers on a high-hat.  
I 
> use 
> > > a 
> > > > > > Drum Tech pole pad for high hat. Not only does it have 
two 
> > > > > distinct, 
> > > > > > sensitive mono triggers that can be mounted high; the 
> rounded 
> > > > edge 
> > > > > > also allows me to play with the shaft of the stick. The 
> > > drawback 
> > > > is 
> > > > > > that it certainly doesn't look, or respond, like a 
> traditional 
> > > > high 
> > > > > > hat. But, for now, I'm addicted to it. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> > > > > > > well first off congards on the zenbal cymbal.. i've 
> demoed a 
> > > > few 
> > > > > > at 
> > > > > > > guitar center ,but haven't picked one up yet.. they 
> seemed 
> > to 
> > > > be 
> > > > > > alot 
> > > > > > > better designed than the tc's that pintech has for e-
> > > cymbals.. 
> > > > i 
> > > > > > > wonder if there gonna make any other sizes though?? i'd 
> love 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > throw 
> > > > > > > a 18" dual zone on my kit for a ride.. i have 9 hart 
e's 
> on 
> > > my 
> > > > > > kit. 
> > > > > > > they're great for crashes,aux hihats,splashes,and 
> > china's,but 
> > > > > > still 
> > > > > > > haven't found one i like for my primary hihats,or for 
my 
> > ride 
> > > > > > > trigger... i'm thinking of going to the zenbal for my 
> hats 
> > > > > > though.. 
> > > > > > > have you tried it for a hihat trigger?? i'm just 
> wondering 
> > > how 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > stick rebound is?? when i demoed them at guitar center 
> they 
> > > > had 
> > > > > > them 
> > > > > > > on crash stands and wouldn't let me move them to the 
> hihat 
> > > > > > stand...   
> > > > > > > cool deal on getting one though i'll have to pick one 
up 
> in 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > near 
> > > > > > > future
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > sam(otacon28)
> > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I've been able to get one of these in my kit, and 
> though I 
> > > > > > haven't 
> > > > > > > > had a lot of time with it, my first impressions are 
> really 
> > > > > > > > positive.  It tracks well, seems to bring out the 
best 
> in 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > > > ride sounds (that's saying something), has a nice 
> feel, 
> > and 
> > > > > > > > doesn't make a lot of noise. But at this point, what 
I 
> > like 
> > > > > best 
> > > > > > > > about it is that if you choose the right combination 
> of 
> > > ride 
> > > > > for 
> > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > body and crash for the rim, you can get that kind of 
> > > > symbiotic 
> > > > > > > > ride/crash effect that an acoustic ride will give you 
> when 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > > swings 
> > > > > > > > just right.  I've never been able to get that with a 
> > Roland 
> > > > or 
> > > > > > > > Yamaha.  Also, the price is right.  I wonder how it 
> stacks 
> > > > up 
> > > > > > > > against the Harts.

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