Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Right. If you plug the PCY80s into the input that had your crash, 
you'll get the full effect of rim, bow, and choke.  The PCY10 can go 
into 9/10, and with a splitter, you can add another mono pad of your 
choice. Have fun.
--- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> so i can use the input of my past crash for a new PCY80S and the 
9/10 
> input for the bell PCY10 , and even if i use a splitter buy 
another 
> pad ? ( seem yes but i just want to be sure before buy all that ;-)
> Stephane 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Someone can run a search for the post of the various triggers 
and 
> > their corresponding inputs (it actually derived from one of the 
> > electronic drum sites) if they feel the need, but hairytrigger's 
> > reply pretty much says it all. A pad with a rim switch and a 
piezo 
> > trigger--in other words, a stereo pad--is not the same as a dual-
> > zone or dual-mono pad, like the ones I mentioned in the Zenbal 
> post. 
> > The rim switch, which is a different technology altogether, will 
> not 
> > work through input 9/10.
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> wrote:
> > > Inputs 1 thru 8 are STEREO inputs. They will trigger two 
sounds 
> > from 
> > > STEREO pads. Stereo pads use two different type triggers for 
the 
> > pad 
> > > and rim. A piezo transduder for the pad and a switch type 
trigger 
> > for 
> > > the rim. PCY80S uses this type arrangement. Inputs 9/10 are 
> > actually 
> > > two MONO inputs. You can use a DUAL pad, which uses two PIEZO 
> > > triggers, or with a splitter, two separate mono pads.
> > > There is a post that more fully explains this distinction. 
> Anybody 
> > > remember the message number?
> > > Scott
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > > Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress inputs except 
> > > > > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only.
> > > > 
> > > > why ? it's a strereo input trigger no ? i read on DTXpress 
> > manuel 
> > > > that if i use a mono cable only channel 9 will be used , so 
if 
> i 
> > use 
> > > > a stereo cable on a stereo pad normaly i'll gonna have 2 
sound 
> > like 
> > > > with my snare drum pad ?
> > > > i ask that cause i just move my PCY80S cymbal pad for a hit 
hat 
> > use 
> > > ( 
> > > > i need the edge for accent on hit hat ) so now i wanted to 
use 
> > the 
> > > > free 9/10 input trigger for another PCY80S ( ride/crash 
use ) 
> > plus a 
> > > > Bell pad ( PCY10 ) unsing my past crash input , if you are 
> right 
> > i 
> > > > cannot do that ;-(((((
> > > > 
> > > > Stephane
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Chitsman,
> > > > > 
> > > > > The ZB2 model is stereo like the Yamaha PCY80s and unlike, 
> for 
> > > > > example, the Hart Ecymbal II Ride or the Pintech CC102ST, 
> > which 
> > > are 
> > > > > dual mono.  Bow and rim will work in any of the Xpress 
inputs 
> > > > except 
> > > > > for 9/10, which will trigger the bow only.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ed
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "chitsman" <chitsman@s...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi liberatusvisrus,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have a question regarding the Pintech Zenbals ZB2...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is it a dual trigger cymbal or a stereo trigger, like 
the 
> > Yamaha 
> > > > > > PCY80S? Which input are you plugging the ZB2 into?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> 
wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The Zenbal puts the TCs to bed (no offense to those on 
> > strict 
> > > > > > > budgets). One important consideration about the ZB2 as 
a 
> > ride 
> > > > is 
> > > > > > > that its relatively large rim and inert bell doesn't 
> leave 
> > an 
> > > > > > > enormous amount of room for riding; an 18" would 
> certainly 
> > be 
> > > > > > better 
> > > > > > > in that respect. Maybe if Pintech has enough success 
with 
> > this 
> > > > > > > model, they'll expand the line.  Personally, I hope 
so. 
> > I'm 
> > > > > > > satisfied with the rebound action of the ZB2, but my 
> > reaction 
> > > > > may 
> > > > > > be 
> > > > > > > subjective. Too bad the dealer wouldn't let you 
tinker. 
> > > > > > > Unfortunately, my setup won't let me test it as a high 
> > hat. My 
> > > > > gut 
> > > > > > > feeling is that, even though its dual zone may have 
> > definite 
> > > > > > > advantages in high-hat use, the raised rim and slender 
> bow 
> > may 
> > > > > make 
> > > > > > > it awkward to manipulate a stick between one zone and 
the 
> > > > other. 
> > > > > > > Again, this may be the kind of difficulty that a 
> > resourceful 
> > > > > > drummer 
> > > > > > > could overcome, and, of course, the single-zone is an 
> > option 
> > > > for 
> > > > > > > anyone who can live without two triggers on a high-
hat.  
> I 
> > use 
> > > > a 
> > > > > > > Drum Tech pole pad for high hat. Not only does it have 
> two 
> > > > > > distinct, 
> > > > > > > sensitive mono triggers that can be mounted high; the 
> > rounded 
> > > > > edge 
> > > > > > > also allows me to play with the shaft of the stick. 
The 
> > > > drawback 
> > > > > is 
> > > > > > > that it certainly doesn't look, or respond, like a 
> > traditional 
> > > > > high 
> > > > > > > hat. But, for now, I'm addicted to it. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > well first off congards on the zenbal cymbal.. i've 
> > demoed a 
> > > > > few 
> > > > > > > at 
> > > > > > > > guitar center ,but haven't picked one up yet.. they 
> > seemed 
> > > to 
> > > > > be 
> > > > > > > alot 
> > > > > > > > better designed than the tc's that pintech has for e-
> > > > cymbals.. 
> > > > > i 
> > > > > > > > wonder if there gonna make any other sizes though?? 
i'd 
> > love 
> > > > > to 
> > > > > > > throw 
> > > > > > > > a 18" dual zone on my kit for a ride.. i have 9 hart 
> e's 
> > on 
> > > > my 
> > > > > > > kit. 
> > > > > > > > they're great for crashes,aux hihats,splashes,and 
> > > china's,but 
> > > > > > > still 
> > > > > > > > haven't found one i like for my primary hihats,or 
for 
> my 
> > > ride 
> > > > > > > > trigger... i'm thinking of going to the zenbal for 
my 
> > hats 
> > > > > > > though.. 
> > > > > > > > have you tried it for a hihat trigger?? i'm just 
> > wondering 
> > > > how 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > stick rebound is?? when i demoed them at guitar 
center 
> > they 
> > > > > had 
> > > > > > > them 
> > > > > > > > on crash stands and wouldn't let me move them to the 
> > hihat 
> > > > > > > stand...   
> > > > > > > > cool deal on getting one though i'll have to pick 
one 
> up 
> > in 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > near 
> > > > > > > > future
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > sam(otacon28)
> > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I've been able to get one of these in my kit, and 
> > though I 
> > > > > > > haven't 
> > > > > > > > > had a lot of time with it, my first impressions 
are 
> > really 
> > > > > > > > > positive.  It tracks well, seems to bring out the 
> best 
> > in 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > > > > ride sounds (that's saying something), has a nice 
> > feel, 
> > > and 
> > > > > > > > > doesn't make a lot of noise. But at this point, 
what 
> I 
> > > like 
> > > > > > best 
> > > > > > > > > about it is that if you choose the right 
combination 
> > of 
> > > > ride 
> > > > > > for 
> > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > body and crash for the rim, you can get that kind 
of 
> > > > > symbiotic 
> > > > > > > > > ride/crash effect that an acoustic ride will give 
you 
> > when 
> > > > > it 
> > > > > > > > swings 
> > > > > > > > > just right.  I've never been able to get that with 
a 
> > > Roland 
> > > > > or 
> > > > > > > > > Yamaha.  Also, the price is right.  I wonder how 
it 
> > stacks 
> > > > > up 
> > > > > > > > > against the Harts.