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Re: Pintech Zenbal ZB2 (14 inch stereo cymbal)

2002-11-10 by liberatusvirus

Stephane,

Sorry, I forgot about your PCY10. You may have to stay with the 
Yamaha, which is not a bad cymbal at all. The Hart ECX series is 
slightly similar in appearance, but I'm not sure that the chokable 
crashes will also work as effective rides. I've never used them. The 
18" ride is dual zone, which wouldn't be any help to you. 

Am I right that you are from France? If you were from the US, I'd 
recommend that you contact Ed or Charlotte Morin at the web store 
called Drumbalaya (http://www.drumbalaya.com/), who could tell you 
your best option and sell it to you at a good price. They have an 
email address (and phone number) somewhere on their site. But you 
may have closer resources if you are in Europe.

Why don't you try a new Subject heading: "Which stereo cymbals can 
be used with PCY10"?

Ed

--- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> Hi Ed , the Pintech Zenbal ZB2 seem real good but i i wanted to 
add a 
> PCY10 to play bell and with the Pintech Zenbal ZB2 it's not 
possible 
> to add that because she already have a "false" bell :-(
> Stephane
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Stephane,
> > 
> > I agree that the Yamahas don't always respond to what appears to 
be 
> > a good hit, but all rim switches can be a little finicky. My 
> > favorite reasonably priced stereo cymbal at this point is easily 
> the 
> > Pintech Zenbal ZB2.  As with all stereo cymbals, the ZB2's rim 
can 
> > serve as a crash while its body serves as a ride (and it 
swings). 
> It 
> > tracks very well. Another stereo cymbal at about the same price, 
> > though 2 inches smaller, is the Roland CY6. For me, though, the 
CY6 
> > works better as two separate crashes than as a crash and a ride. 
It 
> > doesn't have a raised rim like the Yamaha or the Pintech 
stereos, 
> > but the edge requires a little practice to hit effectively with 
the 
> > shaft of a stick. Until you master the technique, you can 
sometimes 
> > get the bow sound (or no sound at all) when you want the edge 
> sound. 
> > (Don't forget that you can also use a stereo snare/tom pad like 
the 
> > Yamaha TP80s, the Pintech SE102, or the Roland PD9 as a 
ride/crash 
> > as well.) I hope your dealer carries a selection that you can 
try. 
> > Hopefully, others will respond to this post, and you can get the 
> > benefit of the group's wide range of experience.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > Great ;-)) , before i buy the PCY80S cymbal and as i have time 
to 
> > > time problem with that pad ( edge don't react time to time but 
> not 
> > > enough to prouve that to my seller ) is there a better pad 
> > cymbal ? i 
> > > read post about pintech but i gonna use this pad as ride/crash 
> and 
> > > the way pintech place the second zone ... i prefer the crash 
on 
> > the 
> > > edge of the pad , any suggestion ? 
> > > stephane 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > > Right. If you plug the PCY80s into the input that had your 
> > crash, 
> > > > you'll get the full effect of rim, bow, and choke.  The 
PCY10 
> > can 
> > > go 
> > > > into 9/10, and with a splitter, you can add another mono pad 
of 
> > > your 
> > > > choice. Have fun.
> > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > > > so i can use the input of my past crash for a new PCY80S 
and 
> > the 
> > > > 9/10 
> > > > > input for the bell PCY10 , and even if i use a splitter 
buy 
> > > > another 
> > > > > pad ? ( seem yes but i just want to be sure before buy all 
> > that ;-
> > > )
> > > > > Stephane 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Someone can run a search for the post of the various 
> > triggers 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > their corresponding inputs (it actually derived from one 
of 
> > the 
> > > > > > electronic drum sites) if they feel the need, but 
> > > hairytrigger's 
> > > > > > reply pretty much says it all. A pad with a rim switch 
and 
> a 
> > > > piezo 
> > > > > > trigger--in other words, a stereo pad--is not the same 
as a 
> > > dual-
> > > > > > zone or dual-mono pad, like the ones I mentioned in the 
> > Zenbal 
> > > > > post. 
> > > > > > The rim switch, which is a different technology 
altogether, 
> > > will 
> > > > > not 
> > > > > > work through input 9/10.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> 
wrote:
> > > > > > > Inputs 1 thru 8 are STEREO inputs. They will trigger 
two 
> > > > sounds 
> > > > > > from 
> > > > > > > STEREO pads. Stereo pads use two different type 
triggers 
> > for 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > pad 
> > > > > > > and rim. A piezo transduder for the pad and a switch 
type 
> > > > trigger 
> > > > > > for 
> > > > > > > the rim. PCY80S uses this type arrangement. Inputs 
9/10 
> > are 
> > > > > > actually 
> > > > > > > two MONO inputs. You can use a DUAL pad, which uses 
two 
> > PIEZO 
> > > > > > > triggers, or with a splitter, two separate mono pads.
> > > > > > > There is a post that more fully explains this 
> distinction. 
> > > > > Anybody 
> > > > > > > remember the message number?
> > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > >

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