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Re: Pintech Zenbal ZB2 (14 inch stereo cymbal)

2002-11-10 by dopmi

> Why don't you try a new Subject heading: "Which stereo cymbals can 
> be used with PCY10"?
ok i try ;-)

--- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Stephane,
> 
> Sorry, I forgot about your PCY10. You may have to stay with the 
> Yamaha, which is not a bad cymbal at all. The Hart ECX series is 
> slightly similar in appearance, but I'm not sure that the chokable 
> crashes will also work as effective rides. I've never used them. 
The 
> 18" ride is dual zone, which wouldn't be any help to you. 
> 
> Am I right that you are from France? If you were from the US, I'd 
> recommend that you contact Ed or Charlotte Morin at the web store 
> called Drumbalaya (http://www.drumbalaya.com/), who could tell you 
> your best option and sell it to you at a good price. They have an 
> email address (and phone number) somewhere on their site. But you 
> may have closer resources if you are in Europe.
> 
> Why don't you try a new Subject heading: "Which stereo cymbals can 
> be used with PCY10"?
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > Hi Ed , the Pintech Zenbal ZB2 seem real good but i i wanted to 
> add a 
> > PCY10 to play bell and with the Pintech Zenbal ZB2 it's not 
> possible 
> > to add that because she already have a "false" bell :-(
> > Stephane
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
wrote:
> > > Hi Stephane,
> > > 
> > > I agree that the Yamahas don't always respond to what appears 
to 
> be 
> > > a good hit, but all rim switches can be a little finicky. My 
> > > favorite reasonably priced stereo cymbal at this point is 
easily 
> > the 
> > > Pintech Zenbal ZB2.  As with all stereo cymbals, the ZB2's rim 
> can 
> > > serve as a crash while its body serves as a ride (and it 
> swings). 
> > It 
> > > tracks very well. Another stereo cymbal at about the same 
price, 
> > > though 2 inches smaller, is the Roland CY6. For me, though, the 
> CY6 
> > > works better as two separate crashes than as a crash and a 
ride. 
> It 
> > > doesn't have a raised rim like the Yamaha or the Pintech 
> stereos, 
> > > but the edge requires a little practice to hit effectively with 
> the 
> > > shaft of a stick. Until you master the technique, you can 
> sometimes 
> > > get the bow sound (or no sound at all) when you want the edge 
> > sound. 
> > > (Don't forget that you can also use a stereo snare/tom pad like 
> the 
> > > Yamaha TP80s, the Pintech SE102, or the Roland PD9 as a 
> ride/crash 
> > > as well.) I hope your dealer carries a selection that you can 
> try. 
> > > Hopefully, others will respond to this post, and you can get 
the 
> > > benefit of the group's wide range of experience.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > > Great ;-)) , before i buy the PCY80S cymbal and as i have 
time 
> to 
> > > > time problem with that pad ( edge don't react time to time 
but 
> > not 
> > > > enough to prouve that to my seller ) is there a better pad 
> > > cymbal ? i 
> > > > read post about pintech but i gonna use this pad as 
ride/crash 
> > and 
> > > > the way pintech place the second zone ... i prefer the crash 
> on 
> > > the 
> > > > edge of the pad , any suggestion ? 
> > > > stephane 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > Right. If you plug the PCY80s into the input that had your 
> > > crash, 
> > > > > you'll get the full effect of rim, bow, and choke.  The 
> PCY10 
> > > can 
> > > > go 
> > > > > into 9/10, and with a splitter, you can add another mono 
pad 
> of 
> > > > your 
> > > > > choice. Have fun.
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "dopmi" <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > > > > so i can use the input of my past crash for a new PCY80S 
> and 
> > > the 
> > > > > 9/10 
> > > > > > input for the bell PCY10 , and even if i use a splitter 
> buy 
> > > > > another 
> > > > > > pad ? ( seem yes but i just want to be sure before buy 
all 
> > > that ;-
> > > > )
> > > > > > Stephane 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Someone can run a search for the post of the various 
> > > triggers 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > their corresponding inputs (it actually derived from 
one 
> of 
> > > the 
> > > > > > > electronic drum sites) if they feel the need, but 
> > > > hairytrigger's 
> > > > > > > reply pretty much says it all. A pad with a rim switch 
> and 
> > a 
> > > > > piezo 
> > > > > > > trigger--in other words, a stereo pad--is not the same 
> as a 
> > > > dual-
> > > > > > > zone or dual-mono pad, like the ones I mentioned in the 
> > > Zenbal 
> > > > > > post. 
> > > > > > > The rim switch, which is a different technology 
> altogether, 
> > > > will 
> > > > > > not 
> > > > > > > work through input 9/10.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Inputs 1 thru 8 are STEREO inputs. They will trigger 
> two 
> > > > > sounds 
> > > > > > > from 
> > > > > > > > STEREO pads. Stereo pads use two different type 
> triggers 
> > > for 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > pad 
> > > > > > > > and rim. A piezo transduder for the pad and a switch 
> type 
> > > > > trigger 
> > > > > > > for 
> > > > > > > > the rim. PCY80S uses this type arrangement. Inputs 
> 9/10 
> > > are 
> > > > > > > actually 
> > > > > > > > two MONO inputs. You can use a DUAL pad, which uses 
> two 
> > > PIEZO 
> > > > > > > > triggers, or with a splitter, two separate mono pads.
> > > > > > > > There is a post that more fully explains this 
> > distinction. 
> > > > > > Anybody 
> > > > > > > > remember the message number?
> > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > >

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