Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Ed...Yah it's snowing here, but not like on the
coast...I live between Buffalo and Rochester,NY in a
small rural farming community, so we are only supposed
to get 4 or 5 inches.
Now that UTILITY MODE...on the MAP...the Page you're
referring to is it  under section 5-1.
UT MAP N=   OC-2
=K/000  NO ASSIGN? 
So while I am on this MAP Page, I would set the note
number for the ride bow (on my user kit I created, I
have note #49 Category 040)  RIGHT NOW I HAVE NOTHING
PLUGGED INTO OUTLET 6 ON THE DTX, so I would have to
assign this cymbal sound to pad#9.  I could COPY that
setting to say INPUT 7, then when and save it to user
kit #80?  Am I following you right?
You say I would have to assign a different note #
other than the #49 on this UT MAP N= **would the N= be
an INPUT or a NOTE NUMBER?  This is where I GET
CONFUSED....and Where it says K+NO ASSIGN...Would I
assign whatever the 040 Ride cymbal is or would that
be the input number?  Please be patient with me, I
KNOW I am DENSE, just wish it would come faster for
me...will wait for your response...Thanks!!....Jade
--- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@...>"
<liberatusvirus@...> wrote:
> Hi Jade,
> 
> Snowing enough for ya? I'll answer best as I can for
> now below.
> 
> > Ed..I want to move my visulite 18 inch ride to the
> midiKITI, I 
> > wanted to use the one sound I have in my personal
> user kit for it, 
> > but I know it has 2 sounds (bell and ride
> sounds)..I have the Y 
> > connector, but Hosa sent the wrong one, I got a
> stereo male to 2 
> > stereo females, and I needed the stereo male to to
> mono females, 
> the 
> > guy at the store said it might work, they are
> reordering the 
> YPP117.
> 
> The stereo females won't work so let's treat the
> visulite as a 
> single zone ride for now and forget about the bell.
> If you can 
> connect the bow to the kat successfully, you won't
> have trouble 
> later with the bell.
> 
> > I plugged in the KITI, I have my midi cables
> connectec to midi 
> > in/midi out on both...WHICH MIDI OUT channel
> should I use on the 
> > KITI..there are 2 MIDI OUTS, the book only shows a
> diagram and 
> > doesn't tell which midi out to use, so I plugged
> it into the midi 
> > out outlet next to the midi in outlet.  
> 
> It doesn't matter which midi out you use. At this
> point, make sure 
> that the visulite bow is connected to an input on
> the kat.
> 
> i tried a preset kit, and 
> > found a ride sound that changed my #9 pad from the
> tom sound to a 
> > ride cymbal.  I then used the Hosa YPP118 and
> connected my a mono 
> > plugs from the visulite into inputs 1 and 2 on the
> KITI.  I went 
> to 
> > the trigger edit of my preset user kit..named it
> MIDI KITI, and 
> > found the sound for pad 9 that changed from tom to
> ride...the note 
> > was #053.  I pressed the AUTOTRAIN on the KITI,
> and pushed the 
> > trigger voice button, theo the 0-5-3 lights were
> lit in sequence.  
> I 
> > didn't know what to do next.  
> 
> You've gone off track. I'm glad that you got so far
> as to see the 
> note number displayed on the kat. But now you need
> to be in a user 
> kit on the DTX for the next steps. In the interest
> of simplicity, 
> take any kit, whether preset or one of your own, and
> use it to 
> create user kit #80, or just scroll through the kit
> numbers until 
> you reach the last one, #80, which you can name
> midikiti in the 
> voice edit menu sometime if you are so inclined. In
> that kit 80, 
> assign the voice that you'd like for the bow of the
> visulite to one 
> of the pads connected to any input on the DTX. For
> example, assign 
> the cymbal sound C21 (or whatever you prefer) to
> whatever pad is 
> connected to input 6, or whatever input you like. 
> 
> Now, remember when I told you that you'd need a new
> note number for 
> that voice rather than the one already assigned in
> the voice menu? 
> If you stay with the default number, you will get
> whatever sound is 
> associated with that INPUT in all of the preset
> kits. That's because 
> the DTX assigns numbers to inputs, not voices,
> unless you explicitly 
> assign numbers to voices instead. Since the numbers
> go to inputs 
> rather than voices, whenever you switch kits, the
> number--053 in 
> your case--will refer to a different voice. What you
> want to do is 
> make sure that when the number stays the same, so
> does the voice. My 
> next paragraph shows you how.
> 
> I read the KITI manuel, and it said if 
> > I hit the trigger (cymbal) it should play that
> note...0-5-3 which 
> > was a ride cymbal voice.  Well I hit the cymbal
> and if I hit it 
> > hard, I am getting a tomR sound!!!  What the heck
> am I doing 
> wrong?  
> > I wanna assign a ride cymbal, and a bell voice to
> the KITI...HOW 
> DO 
> > I GET THESE VOICES TO SOUND FOR MY RIDE.  Ther's
> gotta be 
> something 
> > I am missing here, the DTX module is set to ch
> 10...do I need to 
> be 
> > in a UTILITY MODE PAGE?  
> 
> You're getting the tom sound because you haven't
> specified that your 
> chosen voice should have its own number, rather than
> an input number 
> that goes with different voices in different kits.
> Go into section 
> 5, Map, in the utility menu. The first page concerns
> voice. Increase 
> the "N" value (note number) until you get one that
> is free. On the 
> next line, assign that free note number to cymbal
> C21 (or whichever 
> one you chose in the last paragraph). The following
> pages allow you 
> to set parameters (volume, pan, tuning, etc.) for
> this midi voice 
> that you've specified for the kat to use by note
> number. You can 
> come back to these parameters. For now, go back into
> user kit 80 and 
> see whether the input on the kat with your visulite
> ride now takes 
> the new number when you hit the appropriate pad
> connected to the 
> DTX. Voila! Now when you hit the visulite, the new
> note number 
> should be displayed on the kat's face. It will no
> longer matter 
> which kit you choose on the DTX; you'll always get
> the cymbal sound 
> that you've asscociated with that number. What
> remains is to follow 
> the manual to set gain etc. on the kat and to finish
> setting those 
> parameters in the utility menu for the voice that
> you want the kat 
> to access when you hit the visulite.
> 
> 
> Also, when I plugged in the 2 
> > mono jacks from the Vis. cymbal, I noticed that
> only trigger 1 was 
> > lit.  Shouldn't trigger 2 be lit also?  Or is this
> because the Y 
> > adapter is wrong, I should have the stereo male to
> 2 mono females 
> > attaching to 2 mono males into the KITI....can ya
> help me out?  
> 
> The other input on the kat didn't work because the
> adapter is wrong. 
> There's a fairly simple logic to what I've outlined.
> I haven't gone 
> into detail about what to do on the kat after you
> get the note 
> number right. The first few pages of the manual
> should get you 
> there. Read them carefully again until it all sinks
> in. 
> 
> At the risk of confusing you, the point of creating
> a midikiti kit 
> #80 is to give you a convenient place to program
> pads that you can 
> hit to convey note numbers to the kat via the DTX
> midi out. The kat 
> in turn uses its midi out to access the voice info
> that you 
> programmed into the DTX for that note number. I'll
> have some 
> suggestions for how you might use the kat without
> having to do much 
> fussing (many of them can be found in my reply to a
> post of 
> under'heaven's earlier this month). But get this
> much down first; 
> then you can change or expand as you wish. If you
> have more 
> 
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