Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Vern,

Thanks for entering the fray with us. The Boss does basically what 
Jade and UNH are trying to do with the midikiti and pm16, 
respectively. I have a midikiti that I use with an earlier dtx 
module. It works flawlessly. In my case, what I have to do is enter 
the dtx utility menu to set a new note number for each voice I want 
to access from a particular input in the midikiti, which has the 
facility to store that number for that input. If I used the dtx's 
default numbers, my kiti voices would change every time I changed a 
kit on the dtx. Jade's kiti, even reset to factory defaults, will 
not take a number from the dtxII and play the voice associated with 
it. We've (Walt, Jade, UNH, and I) been through hell and back trying 
to get the DTXII to do what Walt's and my modules do with ease. 
Jade's and UNH's midi connections seem to be in order (we've been 
through this, but I hope the back of the module is set ti MIDI). 
Pitch is probably not a problem, at least so far as I can tell. To 
complicate the problem, an apps specialist at Yamaha has informed 
Jade that what he wants to do is impossible on the DTXII, but we 
don't trust that information yet, since it can be done on earlier 
versions and other Yamaha modules. It's very puzzling. I don't think 
that Jade or UNH have sequencers. That's the basic predicament.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> Ok, let me see if this helps any:
> 
> I have a BOSS MPD-4 (here's a picture I found quickly through 
GOOGLE:
> http://www.timberwolf.us/images/MPD-4.jpg). This is unit has a 
single pad
> on it and inputs for 3 more pads. It outputs MIDI and I run a MIID 
cable
> from it to the MIDI-IN on my DTXPressII unit. I then set the MPD-4 
to
> channel 10, then use the "sound" knob to change the note numbers it
> transmits till I hear the sound I'm hunting for (cowbell, conga,
> china-boy etc.).
> 
> After doing this, the module is quite capable of playing that 
sound when
> hit. I can also reset it for hand-claps or ride-bell or whatever 
just by
> pusing the "sound set" button and tapping the pad while I rotate 
the
> knob. As you slowly rotate the knob, you hear different voices.
> 
> I will be getting some pads for it so I can use it as an extra 4 
inputs
> for my set eventually, but for now I just use it as one velocity-
> sensitive input for the DTXpressII module. Is this what you are 
trying to
> do with the MIDIkiti etc.?
> 
> If so, have you tried placing the output from the MIDIkiti into a
> sequencer that has the ability to show you EXCATLY what is coming 
out of
> the KITI? I imagine if I were trouble shooting the rig you guys 
have been
> describing, I would setup like this:
> 
> MIDIKiti--->USB_MIDI_In--->PC_W/Sequencer-->USB_MIDI_Out-->DTXpress
> 
> Then, while recording from the PC/with sequencer software, I would 
strike
> the MIDIKiti and record the output. Then (depending on the 
sequencer
> program you use) go back through the event list and see exactly 
what is
> being transmitted. In fact, if you did this setup with the 
PC/Sequencer
> set to MIDI-Through, you would be able to hear what was playing 
and then
> identify the weird "truck horn" sound or whatever it is you think 
you are
> hearing.
> 
> Something just occured to me, could it be the "truck horn" sounds 
you are
> hearing might be somthing like the standard "closed-hat" sound 
being
> pitch-shifted down 4 octaves or so? Maybe there is an octave 
switch or
> pitch change or some such on the KITI? Also, is the Kiti ONLY 
going out
> to the DTXpress and not looped back IN to the MIDIkiti from the 
DTXpress?
> If so, it might be that you're seeing some strange multi-trigger 
thing if
> you have a loop like that...
> 
> Again, any of the above scenarios could be discovered by examining 
the
> event data in the track the sequencer captured. :)
> 
> Vern
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> 
> liberatusvirus said:
> > Vern,
> >
> > What we've been trying to do with the DTXII that we can do with
> > earlier modules is attach a user midi note (not one of the 
default
> > midi notes to a particular input) to a particular dtx drum voice 
and
> > store that note on a midi interface like the PM-16 or the Kat
> > midiKITI. The ultimate goal is to have a pad played through one 
of  the
> > kiti's or PM-16's inputs access the appropriate voice/note on  
the dtx
> > through the midi connection to effectively enlarge the dtx  kit. 
Can
> > you use an app to play a such a midi note back through the  dtx?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> 
wrote:
> >> Ok, I have a DTXpressII and I have it setup w/MIDI going to a
> > MIDIMAN 2x2
> >> USB Midi port to my Windows XP machine running SOnar. I have 
had no
> >> problem getting tracks recorded to SONAR and playing them back
> > through
> >> the DTXpressII module. Not just drums (on channel 10) but 
General
> > MIDI
> >> sounds on other channels. I have also hooked up my MIDIMAN USB
> > keystation
> >> external MIDI keyboard nad have used it to trigger drum sounds 
and
> >> general MIDI sounds from the DTXpressII, just as I would expect 
it
> > to
> >> work. So, as far as I can tell, there isn't any problem with the
> >> DTXPressII working with external MIDI sources.... Is there
> > anything I can
> >> tell you guys or test for you to try and help in all the
> > madness? ;)
> >>
> >> Vern
> >>
> >> --
> >> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then 
you're
> >> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are 
we
> >> Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the 
network
> >> vern@t... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
> >> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" 
VLG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Walt said:
> >> > Hi Everyone,
> >> >
> >> > You may have seen some posts lately about members trying to
> > trigger
> >> > DYXpress IIs from external devices (PM-16 or Kiti).  Although 
we
> > have
> >> > tried many tactics (including ones that worked on DTXpress and
> > DTX V2
> >> > modules), so far we have not beewn successful.
> >> >
> >> > What I am looking for is anyone that has a DTXpress II, and an
> >> external MIDI device, that has either successfully triggered 
drum
> >> sounds from a DTXpress II on MIDI channel 10, or has a setup 
that
> >> would allow them to test this.  Since the DTXpress II is a
> > somewhat new
> >> > beast, we're trying to figure out if we all got suddenly 
dumber,
> > or
> >> > maybe there is a problem with the DTXpress II's MIDI code?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,  Walt
> >> >
> >> >
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