Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Ok, let me see if this helps any:

I have a BOSS MPD-4 (here's a picture I found quickly through GOOGLE:
http://www.timberwolf.us/images/MPD-4.jpg). This is unit has a single pad
on it and inputs for 3 more pads. It outputs MIDI and I run a MIID cable
from it to the MIDI-IN on my DTXPressII unit. I then set the MPD-4 to
channel 10, then use the "sound" knob to change the note numbers it
transmits till I hear the sound I'm hunting for (cowbell, conga,
china-boy etc.).

After doing this, the module is quite capable of playing that sound when
hit. I can also reset it for hand-claps or ride-bell or whatever just by
pusing the "sound set" button and tapping the pad while I rotate the
knob. As you slowly rotate the knob, you hear different voices.

I will be getting some pads for it so I can use it as an extra 4 inputs
for my set eventually, but for now I just use it as one velocity-
sensitive input for the DTXpressII module. Is this what you are trying to
do with the MIDIkiti etc.?

If so, have you tried placing the output from the MIDIkiti into a
sequencer that has the ability to show you EXCATLY what is coming out of
the KITI? I imagine if I were trouble shooting the rig you guys have been
describing, I would setup like this:

MIDIKiti--->USB_MIDI_In--->PC_W/Sequencer-->USB_MIDI_Out-->DTXpress

Then, while recording from the PC/with sequencer software, I would strike
the MIDIKiti and record the output. Then (depending on the sequencer
program you use) go back through the event list and see exactly what is
being transmitted. In fact, if you did this setup with the PC/Sequencer
set to MIDI-Through, you would be able to hear what was playing and then
identify the weird "truck horn" sound or whatever it is you think you are
hearing.

Something just occured to me, could it be the "truck horn" sounds you are
hearing might be somthing like the standard "closed-hat" sound being
pitch-shifted down 4 octaves or so? Maybe there is an octave switch or
pitch change or some such on the KITI? Also, is the Kiti ONLY going out
to the DTXpress and not looped back IN to the MIDIkiti from the DTXpress?
If so, it might be that you're seeing some strange multi-trigger thing if
you have a loop like that...

Again, any of the above scenarios could be discovered by examining the
event data in the track the sequencer captured. :)

Vern

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liberatusvirus said:
> Vern,
>
> What we've been trying to do with the DTXII that we can do with
> earlier modules is attach a user midi note (not one of the default
> midi notes to a particular input) to a particular dtx drum voice and
> store that note on a midi interface like the PM-16 or the Kat
> midiKITI. The ultimate goal is to have a pad played through one of  the
> kiti's or PM-16's inputs access the appropriate voice/note on  the dtx
> through the midi connection to effectively enlarge the dtx  kit. Can
> you use an app to play a such a midi note back through the  dtx?
>
> Ed
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
>> Ok, I have a DTXpressII and I have it setup w/MIDI going to a
> MIDIMAN 2x2
>> USB Midi port to my Windows XP machine running SOnar. I have had no
>> problem getting tracks recorded to SONAR and playing them back
> through
>> the DTXpressII module. Not just drums (on channel 10) but General
> MIDI
>> sounds on other channels. I have also hooked up my MIDIMAN USB
> keystation
>> external MIDI keyboard nad have used it to trigger drum sounds and
>> general MIDI sounds from the DTXpressII, just as I would expect it
> to
>> work. So, as far as I can tell, there isn't any problem with the
>> DTXPressII working with external MIDI sources.... Is there
> anything I can
>> tell you guys or test for you to try and help in all the
> madness? ;)
>>
>> Vern
>>
>> --
>> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
>> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
>> Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
>> vern@t... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
>> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
>>
>>
>>
>> Walt said:
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > You may have seen some posts lately about members trying to
> trigger
>> > DYXpress IIs from external devices (PM-16 or Kiti).  Although we
> have
>> > tried many tactics (including ones that worked on DTXpress and
> DTX V2
>> > modules), so far we have not beewn successful.
>> >
>> > What I am looking for is anyone that has a DTXpress II, and an
>> external MIDI device, that has either successfully triggered drum
>> sounds from a DTXpress II on MIDI channel 10, or has a setup that
>> would allow them to test this.  Since the DTXpress II is a
> somewhat new
>> > beast, we're trying to figure out if we all got suddenly dumber,
> or
>> > maybe there is a problem with the DTXpress II's MIDI code?
>> >
>> > Thanks,  Walt
>> >
>> >
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