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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Looking for DTXpress II , MIDI help

2003-02-25 by Steve Parker

Hi,
I've been trying to follow all these posts, but I've been out of town and haven't had a chance to get caught up with all the e-mails. My PM-16 is working fine with my DTXpress 1 kit. The only problem I have, which we haven't yet been able to solve, is that I don't know how to treat the settings as a kit, so I can change them as I change my DTX kits, either infependently or in conjunction with the DTX. By using the PM-16, I have been able to add 4 additional triggers on to my set. As long as I use them as triggers I don't want to change, then there is less of a problem. I can do all my changes on the DTX. I'll try to read the numerous posts and see if there is anything I can add.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 2:04 PM
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Looking for DTXpress II , MIDI help

I have not yet heard from steve, but maybe jade has?



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, jade <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> My sentiments EXACTLY...Thanks UNH!...I haven't given
> up yet either, but if I have to, I will be buying a
> new module also.....These guys in this group are
> GREAT!!...Jade--- "underneathheaven
> <realvast@s...>" wrote:
> > I just wanted to thank everyone for all the help!!
> > I'm really
> > disappointed about this situation but I haven't
> > given up yet. The
> > good thing is I can still expand even if the pm16
> > doesnt work, I'll
> > just have to buy another midi source or module I
> > guess... I'd be
> > lost without this group, I swear!
> >
>; >
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt
> > wrote:
> > > yup, trying to stay awake through them too....
> > > --- "liberatusvirus "
> > > > > > > Good Morning, Vern,
> > > >
> > > > You hit the nail on the head. What would seem to
> > be
> > > > a
> > > > straightforward use of the DTX midi function
> > won't
> > > > work with the
> > > > DTXII. My own experience with a midiKITI and
> > Walt's
> > > > with a PM-16,
> > > > however, confirm that earlier iterations of the
> > > > Xpress module were
> > > > most cooperative. I gather that Walt seems to
> > think,
> > > > from your
> > > > experience and others', that the fault lies with
> > the
> > > > external
> > > > devices. But our troubleshooting would seem to
> > > > indicate otherwise. A
> > > > Yamaha "apps specialist" apparently did the midi
> > > > keyboard test for
> > > > Jade, and it came up unsuccessful, thereby
> > prompting
> > > > him to tell
> > > > Jade that using an external device with the
> > DTXII
> > > > was impossible.
> > > > Then he hit Jade with the party line, "DTXpress
> > > > users shouldn't need
> > > > anything else." The comment was neither
> > sympathetic,
> > > > accurate, nor
> > > > satisfactory, given, at least, the capabilities
> > of
> > > > other DTXpress
> > > > modules et al. And why for the life of me would
> > > > Yamaha personnel
> > > > have to run essentially the same heuristic test
> > on
> > > > the module that
> > > > we've been running? Someone at that company
> > designed
> > > > it. You'd think
> > > > that they'd have a ready answer for so likely a
> > > > question.
> > > >
> > > > Unless there's something we've overlooked (like
> > the
> > > > proverbial
> > > > unplugged power cord or the like), this is a
> > major
> > > > flaw in the new
> > > > DTXII, which would seem to have designed out, by
> > > > error or intention,
> > > > a selling point of the original DTXpress. Not to
> > > > mention the time
> > > > and effort that people have invested in their
> > > > exploration of this
> > > > problem, Jade and UNH have spent a good deal of
> > > > money on something
> > > > that common sense and precedent would have said
> > was
> > > > well spent.
> > > > Maybe Jade and UNH will come up with something
> > that
> > > > will rescue us
> > > > from this puzzle. I hope so. But boy, it's been
> > a
> > > > frustrating ride.
> > > > Probably as we speak, Professor Walt is busy
> > > > studying manuals and
> > > > constructing theories.
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> >; > >
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner"
> > > > wrote:
> >; > > > So, the problem is that the MIDI-kiti cannot
> > be
> > > > set to send
> > > > specific note
> > > > > numbers from a specific pad? Or are you trying
> > to
> > > > make the
> > > > DTXpressII
> > > > > play a particular sound on a specific note
> > number
> > > > (i.e. Channel
> > > > 10, MIDI
> > > > > note C3 makes the sound of a Ride Cymbal)? It
> > > > would seem that you
> > > > would
> > > > > set the MIDIkiti to channel 10, then assign a
> > note
> > > > number to a pad
> > > > that
> > > > > matches with the sound map of the DTXpress
> > unit.
> > > > Is there
> > > > something I'm
> > > > > missing in the setup? In the manual, on page
> > 42
> > > > section 1-6,
> > > > allows you
> > > > > to assign a MIDI note number to a sound. Would
> > > > this help in your
> > > > > environment (by placing a sound at a note
> > value
> > > > the KITI can
> > > > transmit)?
> > > > > Maybe I'm just dense here, but I still don't
> > see
> > > > where the failure
> > > > is. Is
> > > > > it a lack of flexibility of the MIDI-Kiti or
> > is it
> > > > some perceived
> > > > failure
> > > > > on the part of the DTXpress?
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems pretty straight forward, set the
> > MIDIkiti
> > > > to the proper
> > > > midi
>; > > > > channel, then tell it what note to trigger and
> > > > then place the MIDI
> > > > out
> > > > > from the MIDI kiti to the MIDI in of the
> > > > DTXpress... I guess thats
> > > > not
> > > > > working for you tho. For diagnostics, do you
> > have
> > > > any other MIDI
> > > > gear
> > > > > around you could use to verify function? Maybe
> > > > hook the MIDI-kiti
> > > > to a
> > > > > regular midi keyboard and hit the pads to see
> > if
> > > > it makes any
>; > > > sound.
> > > > > Maybe use a MIDI keyboard to drive the
> > DTXpress to
> > > > see if it is
> > > > > accempting external MIDI stuff. I know that if
> > you
> > > > are using the
>; > > > MIDI in
> > > > > jack on the back of the DTXpress, you will
> > have to
> > > > set the Host-
> > > > select
> > > > > switch to MIDI rather than the PC1/PC2/MAC
> > > > settings... Hmm
> > > > probably not
> > > > > very helpful here, but trying to be! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Vern
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE | "If the network
> > is
> > > > down, then you're
> > > > > Senior Systems Engineer | obviously
> > > > incompetent so why are we
> > > > > Texas Information Services | paying you? Of
> > > > course, if the network
> > > > > vern@t... www.txis.com | is up, then we
> > obviously
> > > > don't need
> > > > > Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are
> > we
> > > > paying you?" VLG
> > > > >;
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >; > > > liberatusvirus said:
> > > > > > Vern,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for entering the fray with us. The
> > Boss
> > > > does basically
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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