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Re: Sonar and DTXpress II - instrument definition

2003-03-10 by wfaraoni

Stephen; Yeah tried that reset earlier. Im going to live with it as 
is for a while. The thing is that im going to be doing the soundfont 
trick to it anyway, so as long as I can recognize which pad Im 
setting a sound for Ill be alright. Hey if I get any good I can 
probably use the analog out. 

If you listened to the song, "weather channel local forecast" over 
at nowhereradio, I think its a good example of what Iv'e been able 
to do with soundfonts from a DR5 drum machine. The problem with the 
drum machine is that you tend to get very automated and repetative.

Peace and prosperity to You
Bill

PS If I get it figured out Ill post it!


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "stev1ebb" <SJB@I...> wrote:
> I hear you Bill and feel your pain! There is more than a little 
bit 
> of luck involved in all of this...I am certainly no guru! 
> 
> One thought however....I remember that I had to put my DTX back to 
> the factory settings before I could get the parameters to work. Of 
> course you loose any user kits and personal parameter changes if 
you 
> do that, but it worked for me and since my primary purpose is to 
> record in Sonar it was not the end of the world. You can do that 
by 
> going into utilities and paging through until you see something 
> like "reset factory settings" and then pressing enter. It asks for 
> confirmation before execurting. Then if you transmit my sysEx file 
> from within Sonar as I described I am pretty sure it will work.
> 
> Of course if you have a lot of user kits etc., you can save them 
to 
> sysEx and then reload them later.....but that's a whole other 
story!
> 
> Failing that, we'll all keep our eyes open for a 17 year old kid 
to 
> fix it for us with a blink of the eye. Don't you just hate 
computers!!
> 
> Happy sysExing....Stephen
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wfaraoni" <wfaraoni@y...> wrote:
> > Stephen; I guess Im getting kind of old for the technology.
> >   As you heard with the songs I have posted I am constantly 
> > struggling with getting better sound and tone recorded . I've 
been 
> > using Sonar for about a year and I thought I had it down pretty 
> well 
> > until this Midi experience. I consider myself to be pretty 
computer 
> > savy and make my living in electronics dealing with computer 
> systems 
> > as well as computer operated equipment. believe it or not! I am 
> also 
> > one of those who is driven to succeed when I cant get something 
to 
> > work, but I have to say that MIDI is the most poorly documented 
and 
> > obviously difficult to grasp areas I have have ever encountered. 
> >   The explainations are a jumble of engineering terms and not a 
how 
> > to, so its difficult to get the big picture.
> > 
> > I spent another 3 grueling hours today trying to get these 
things 
> > configured and even with your assistance and files,having almost 
> the 
> > same system,Im still getting bad snare and kick sounds in most 
> patch 
> > kits but not all as I did before.(only general midi worked 
before)
> > 
> >  I know that this is matter of one or two settings somewhere but 
Im 
> > exausted. theres got to be 1000 places to make a mistake in the 
> > communication configuration. Im going to try to read through all 
> the 
> > midi documentation in both sonar and the dtxpress in the next 
week 
> > or so and maybe Ill come up with the answer.Perhaps Ill call the 
so 
> > called midi guru at yamaha again. Once I get it working we can 
try 
> > to improve it and have a drum set that we can record to midi in 
> > sonar so we can manipulate it to sound like good drummers with 
good 
> > drum setups :) ahhh that would be nice.
> > 
> >   Actually I bought this setup thinking that it would be 
compatible 
> > and all I had to do follow the instructions. Its hard to believe 
> > that yamaha does not address this issue and provide decent 
> > documentation so that these midi drums can be utilized with the 
> most 
> > popular recording software.  There is a lot of power in the unit 
> but 
> > it is wasted if its not usable by the end user.
> > 
> > Then again theres not a lot of people who are giving any advice 
for 
> > the dtx as far as midi goes.
> > 
> > Once again I applaud your conquering the beast for yourself, 
That 
> is 
> > no small accomplishment. There is probably some genius 17 year 
old 
> > out there that can do everything we need in a jiffy but how can 
I 
> > find him?
> > 
> > I may post a step by step of every one of the involved settings 
> when 
> > I recover from my mental hernia :)
> > perhaps then you can recognize if we are set up the same.
> > 
> > Peace and prosperity to you
> > Bill
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Beaumont" <SJB@I...> 
> wrote:
> > > Bill, feel free to try the attached sysEx file which is what I 
to 
> > > set everything in the DTXpress. I made the file by setting all 
> the 
> > > parameters in DTX then dumping it to Sonar and saving it as a 
> > file. 
> > > Then I load the file using the "load from file" option in the 
> > Sonar 
> > > SysEx view and send the info back to the DTX by pressing 
> the "send 
> > > bank" arrow. I usually then set the sysEx to load 
automatically 
> > each 
> > > time I open the file - there in an option in the SysEx section 
> > > somewhere to let you do this.
> > > 
> > > Of course the parameters I set may not be exactly what you 
need, 
> > but 
> > > I know you have to have the local MIDI off, for example, and 
also 
> > > set the DTX to receive SysEx. You can make your own sysEX in 
the 
> > same fashion should this file not do what you need. Anyway, this 
> > works on my setup, so good luck!
> > > 
> > > I checked out your singles on nowhereradio.com. Some nice 
> sounding 
> > > work there :) My interest is composing background music mainly 
> for 
> > > interactive CD-ROMs. Nothing posted as yet, but some day I may 
> get 
> > > around to it. I am a keyboard player, not a drummer, but hated 
> > > trying to make the drum parts sound realistic by inputting 
from a 
> > > keyboard, or worse yet, using pre made loops. Have only had 
the 
> > DTX 
> > > a few months and love playing with it. I need to improve my 
> > > technique a lot, however and it annoys me I have had to spend 
so 
> > > much time on getting it to actually work....anyway, good luck 
> with 
> > > the SysEx. Let me know how it goes.
> > > 
> > > Stephen

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