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Re: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16

2003-04-03 by Daniel Rodriguez

Hello
Hmm! Interesting!!
Well Originally I had considered buying 3 cymbals (real ones) and used the extra ports to add 3 more toms..
Since I have 6 pads sitting around this would allow me to add a lot of sounds..
The idea of having 16 more inputs to set-up sound is great; I would not care if they can be changed later or not, as long as I can assign a sound to it.
For what I just gathered:I would have to keep the original kits(sets) in the Yamaha module?
What about the ones that I have changed.
Say I had saved setting "KIZZ" where I have some pads assign a "rock" sound and no cowbell, Can I still use this kit?
Thanks Guys
This is more interesting that I would have thought....
Chicks magnet!! VERY COOL
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:23 PM
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16

UNH,

That's how I do it, too. We talked about a month or two ago. But
doesn't the PM-16 allow you program multiple kits, or banks, that
you could change when you change kits on the DTX module?

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...>
wrote:
> I used to worry about not being able to have a different sound on
> every user defined kit until I discussed it with someone on here.
> What I do now is keep all my "aux" percussion connected to the PM-
> 16. I mean if I have a crash I really like connected to the pm-16
> because I wanna use it all the time no matter what kit I'm dealing
> with. Stuff that changes all the time I connect to my module. If
I
> used a gong or cowbell for example I would connect those sounds to
>; the pm-16 because they don't change very often for me. Toms and
> crap like that do so they are always connected to my module. Dont
> let this minor flaw stop you from buying one. Its worth it to
have
> 16 more pads, a monster set, and all the chicks after the
gig! :)
>
>
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Walt" wrote:
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > It has 16 inputs, and you are right - it is connected via a midi
> > cable to the Yamaha module. There are some limitations that you
> need
> > to be aware of though, like the fact that within the DTXpress
you
> can
> > not assign sounds in user kit definitions for the pads connected
> via
> > a PM-16 - the sounds for those pads will be the same in all of
the
> > user kits. In other words, if you assign a cowbell sound for
the
> pad
> > connected to input 1 on the PM-16, it will be a cowbell sound in
> all
> > of the user xpress kits. This is not a limitation of the PM-16
> per
> > se, but is one of the environment. This is one reason why some
> folks
> > prefer a second module instead of a pad to midi interface.
> >
> > There are others in the group that can provide more opinions on
> this
> > too - come on, speak up!
> >
> > Walt
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Rodriguez"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Hello Walt
>; > >
> > > Would I be able to use the extra pads I have? How many max?
> > > For What you say the whole thing is piggy-back back to the
> Yamaha
> > module right? I take it through the Midi interface, right? I
know
> I
> > am a bundle of questions.. The thing is that I have seen a few
PM-
> 16
> > for sale in Ebay and got me thinking.. :) Hey, anything to get
the
> > brain cells I got left to fire up..
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Walt
> > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:39 AM
> > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Daniel,
> > >
> > > A PM-16 is a triggee to midi interface device. Think of it
as
> > being
> > > 1/2 of a module - it converts pad hits to a midi note
number,
> > then
> > > sends that note number to another midi device to convert
into
> > > sounds. Inside the Yamaha modules a very similar thing
> happens
> > > between the trigger and voice sections of the module.
> > >
>; > > It is one way to expand the available inputs, adding a
second
> > module
> > > is another way. Both have their pros and cons - I had a pm-
16
> > for my
> > > kit but now use 2 modules instead.
> > >
> > > Walt
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Rodriguez"
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello Everyone
> > > >
> > > > I was reading your emails on the PM-16. I am not familiar
> with
> > it,
> > > but for what I gather is a cheaper way to get more pads
> > installed. I
> > > am correct to think that I could add, say.. 6 or 8 more pads
> to
> > the
> > > kit? Is the PM-16 a drum pad like the ddpad DD-55? I am
asking
> > > because I have like 6 more pads sitting around waiting for
> > another
> > > drum module that I would love to put to good use at a
> sensitive
> > $$...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Rodriguez
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: underneathheaven
> > > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > > > ; Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:15 PM
> > > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey Scott, got yourself a PM-16 eh? Me too! Along with
> > > frustration
> >; > > but that was cured with the help of this fierce group
and
> a
> > call
> > > > with Martin from Yamaha. To fix the problem is simple,
> but
> > it
> > > > requires a factory reset of your dtxpress. This factory
> > reset
> > > will
> > > > set all the midi stuff the way it needs to be set (in
the
> > utility
> > > > mode) and then while in utility mode you can set the
midi
> > notes
> > > to
> > > > whatever you want, while using a predefined kit, like
kit
> > number
> > > one
> > > > for example. Now in the PM-16 you need to be in Midi
> Channel
> > 10,
> > > > and Midi Prog. #1 ch. 10. The midi note number is
> whatever
> > > number
> > > > you selected in the dtxpress to use as your extra
input.
> > Martin
> > > > suggested starting at 56 or somewhere around there as
long
> as
> > the
> > > > midi note number already as a sound set to it, no matter
> what
> > the
> > > > sound is. You cannot use a midi note number that is set
>; > as "not
> > > > assigned." These type of midi numbers start appearing
> quite
> > > early
> > > > in the dtxpress so you don't have to go all the way to
56
> > like I
> > > > did. Once you have the correct midi note number
selected
> in
> > the
> > > > dtxpress and also set in the pm-16, you can go about
> > selecting
> > > > volume and pan and decay or whatever for whatever sound
> you
> > > want.
> > > > (All this is done in the utility mode of the dtxpress
and
> > advance
> > > > mode of the PM-16.) If we need to we can compare all
the
> PM-
> > 16
> > > > settings. I actually did a factory reset on PM-16 as
> well.
> > I
> > > wrote
> > > >; this in a hurry and not in great detail because I think
> you
> > know
> > > > what your doing and can figure it out fairly easily with
> > these
> > > > instructions. If you need more help let us know and
I'll
> > respond
> > > in
> > > >; more detail but right now I gotta go. Also, what number
> do
> > you
> > > have
> > > > lighted up in green on your LCD screen? Mine says
> 84...don't
> > > know
> > > > why.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Scott,
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I know, Underneathheaven's PM-16 is working
> out
> > ok.
> > > > ; Maybe
> > > > > you could drop him a line and copy his settings.
> Otherwise
> > I am
> > > > sure
> > > > > that a fix exists; the dreaded piano sounds were a
very
> > popular
> > > > > topic for months.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger"
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > ; > > > Hi guys
> > > > > > I have finally gotten around to hooking up my pm-16.
I
> > have
> > > the
> > > > > > original DTXpress. I get the same thing I read
about.
> > Sounds
> > > > like
> > > > > a
> > > > > > piano note on all channels. No sound at all on CH
10.
> I
> > had
> > > > > printed
> > > > > >; all the posts re: this issue, and tried everything.
no
> > luck.
> > > Did
> > > > > > anyone figure this out?
> > > > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >
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