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Re: What's a PM-16?

2003-04-19 by liberatusvirus

Nick,

Was your problem that kit #40 kept replacing your preferred kit? Did 
we try changing the drum kit program change number to "none" instead 
of 1 in the UT MIDI PC TABLE setting? If so, and it didn't work, let 
me know, and I'll get you some contact information later that I 
don't have handy right now (although Walt, Jade, UNH, or others may 
intervene). You can talk to one of the Daves (Jewell or Kysicki) or 
Martin.

Ed
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> 
wrote:
> Thanks, Ed. I am filing away that info for future reference!  By 
the 
> way, going back to my on-going frustration re linking a drumkit to 
a 
> self-programmed song - does Yamaha have a technical advice e-mail 
> address I can write to? 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Hey Nick,
> > 
> > You can now get the TMC-6 for something closer to US $200 than 
> $250, 
> > though that probably won't make much difference to you. Its 
> > advantage over the discontinuted PM-16 and the Kat MIDIkiti is 
its 
> > inclusion of inputs that reflect the new technology, mainly 
> > Roland's. It does have stereo input capability, meaning that you 
> > connect Yamaha, Pintech, or Roland gum rubber pads/cymbals with 
a 
> > body/rim or bow/edge through it. But the basic triggering 
> technology 
> > hasn't changed much in ten years. Though the inputs of both the 
PM-
> > 16 and MK are all mono, they have sixteen and nine, 
respectively, 
> > allowing you to use both single-zone and dual-zone drums and 
> > cymbals. UNH is right that you have to enter new midi note 
numbers 
> > on the DTX for every new sound that you want these units to 
make, 
> > but that task seemed like a daunting proposition to users of the 
> > DTXII module only because of a bug in it that we did not know 
about 
> > until some of us had torn out most of our middle-aged hair. (Now 
we 
> > routinely advise everyone with a new DTXII who has any MIDI 
> > ambitions to do a factory reset before trying anything fancy.) 
> > 
> > The two older MIDI interfaces also have different banks (patches 
or 
> > kits) that allow the sounds of connected triggers to change when 
> > kits are changed in the DTX module, as well as other helpful 
> > parameters. None of this is probably going to matter much to 
you; 
> > neither of these units is likely to show up in Australia. But 
who 
> > knows? I'm a long-time user of a Kat MIDIkiti, and it has met my 
> > extra trigger needs quite well. I run the rim of my dual zone 
> snare, 
> > a splash, a heavy cymbal, a bell sound, a china, and a few other 
> > odds and ends through it. Something like it may never end up 
being 
> a 
> > viable option or desire for you, but remember that if you add 
> > another module to your setup, you'll also need a mixer to 
> coordinate 
> > them.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" 
<njcarroll56@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Hey, thanks for that info. The TMC-6 sounds like a good idea. 
> $250 
> > > sounds like an okay price but I assume that's U.S. currency, 
and 
> > at 
> > > the current Australia/U.S. exchange rate that means I'd be 
> > spending 
> > > US$400. I might be more inclined to get a second DTXpress 
module 
> > > which, here Downunder, will cost me something like $1000. I'll 
> put 
> > > that on the backburner, I think!
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
> > <realvast@s...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hey Nick!  The PM-16 is an external midi device made by 
> Roland.  
> > > > Basically, the reason I bought it was to add an additional 
16 
> > > > trigger inputs to my dtxpress.  Yes, the box has a whopping 
16 
> > > > inputs.  I bought it off of ebay for a $100.00 and thats 
> usually 
> > > how 
> > > > much they sell for.  You connect your extra pads to the PM-
16 
> > and 
> > > > then connect the PM-16 to your dtxpress and you've got a 
larger 
> > set 
> > > > to play on!  The PM-16 does have some extra functions, like 
> > stuff 
> > > to 
> > > > do with pitch and velocity but nothing to fancy for todays 
> > > > standards. Like I said, I only bought it for the additional 
> > > inputs.  
> > > > I mentioned in another post that I am starting to see the 
value 
> > in 
> > > > buying another module.  The PM-16 does have its 
limitations.  
> > For 
> > > > example, any pads connected to the PM-16 will sustain their 
> > sounds 
> > > > on any kit you choose.  So if you connected a pad with a 
> cowbell 
> > > > sound and then switched to your user-defined jazz kit, that 
pad 
> > > > would remain a cowbell and you would have to change its 
voice 
> > > > through the utility menu.  As you can tell once you gain 
lots 
> of 
> > > > extra pads and then want to change them for each different 
kit 
> > it 
> > > > becomes a sort of hassle just because you can't save their 
> > changes 
> > > > for each different kit.  Roland makes a new external midi 
> device 
> > > > called the TMC-6.  This costs $250.00 and only comes with 
six 
> > extra 
> > > > inputs but it has more cool functions than the PM-16.  t 
Keep 
> in 
> > > > mind though that these boxes are in no way another module.  
> > Another 
> > > > member also purchased a midikiti, which is another external 
> midi 
> > > > device but I'm not sure if it ever worked properly.  If you 
> > wanna 
> > > > know any more information about it or want a pic of it let 
me 
> > > know!  
> > > > Also, if anyone else wants to add more information about the 
PM-
> > 16 
> > > > please do!!
> > > > 
> > > > -UN.H
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" 
> > <njcarroll56@y...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hey, UN.H!  I note you've got a PM-16, which I assume is 
an 
> > > > ancillary 
> > > > > box that works with the DTXpress brain?  Can you tell me 
what 
> > it 
> > > > is, 
> > > > > and what it does, exactly? It is a Yamaha product?

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