Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Nick,

File this info, too:

general applications support: 888-892-6242

Dave Jewell, Drum Product Mgr. (nice guy; became aware of this group 
back in 1999): djewell@...

Dave Ksyki, Head of Customer Support (esp. MIDI): dksyki@...; 
800-892-6242, ext. 4964

You might also encounter another technical specialist named Martin 
who has also been of great help to members of this group. See if you 
can get this kind of personal attention from Roland. Ha!

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> 
wrote:
> Thanks, Ed. I am filing away that info for future reference!  By 
the 
> way, going back to my on-going frustration re linking a drumkit to 
a 
> self-programmed song - does Yamaha have a technical advice e-mail 
> address I can write to? 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Hey Nick,
> > 
> > You can now get the TMC-6 for something closer to US $200 than 
> $250, 
> > though that probably won't make much difference to you. Its 
> > advantage over the discontinuted PM-16 and the Kat MIDIkiti is 
its 
> > inclusion of inputs that reflect the new technology, mainly 
> > Roland's. It does have stereo input capability, meaning that you 
> > connect Yamaha, Pintech, or Roland gum rubber pads/cymbals with 
a 
> > body/rim or bow/edge through it. But the basic triggering 
> technology 
> > hasn't changed much in ten years. Though the inputs of both the 
PM-
> > 16 and MK are all mono, they have sixteen and nine, 
respectively, 
> > allowing you to use both single-zone and dual-zone drums and 
> > cymbals. UNH is right that you have to enter new midi note 
numbers 
> > on the DTX for every new sound that you want these units to 
make, 
> > but that task seemed like a daunting proposition to users of the 
> > DTXII module only because of a bug in it that we did not know 
about 
> > until some of us had torn out most of our middle-aged hair. (Now 
we 
> > routinely advise everyone with a new DTXII who has any MIDI 
> > ambitions to do a factory reset before trying anything fancy.) 
> > 
> > The two older MIDI interfaces also have different banks (patches 
or 
> > kits) that allow the sounds of connected triggers to change when 
> > kits are changed in the DTX module, as well as other helpful 
> > parameters. None of this is probably going to matter much to 
you; 
> > neither of these units is likely to show up in Australia. But 
who 
> > knows? I'm a long-time user of a Kat MIDIkiti, and it has met my 
> > extra trigger needs quite well. I run the rim of my dual zone 
> snare, 
> > a splash, a heavy cymbal, a bell sound, a china, and a few other 
> > odds and ends through it. Something like it may never end up 
being 
> a 
> > viable option or desire for you, but remember that if you add 
> > another module to your setup, you'll also need a mixer to 
> coordinate 
> > them.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" 
<njcarroll56@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Hey, thanks for that info. The TMC-6 sounds like a good idea. 
> $250 
> > > sounds like an okay price but I assume that's U.S. currency, 
and 
> > at 
> > > the current Australia/U.S. exchange rate that means I'd be 
> > spending 
> > > US$400. I might be more inclined to get a second DTXpress 
module 
> > > which, here Downunder, will cost me something like $1000. I'll 
> put 
> > > that on the backburner, I think!
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
> > <realvast@s...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hey Nick!  The PM-16 is an external midi device made by 
> Roland.  
> > > > Basically, the reason I bought it was to add an additional 
16 
> > > > trigger inputs to my dtxpress.  Yes, the box has a whopping 
16 
> > > > inputs.  I bought it off of ebay for a $100.00 and thats 
> usually 
> > > how 
> > > > much they sell for.  You connect your extra pads to the PM-
16 
> > and 
> > > > then connect the PM-16 to your dtxpress and you've got a 
larger 
> > set 
> > > > to play on!  The PM-16 does have some extra functions, like 
> > stuff 
> > > to 
> > > > do with pitch and velocity but nothing to fancy for todays 
> > > > standards. Like I said, I only bought it for the additional 
> > > inputs.  
> > > > I mentioned in another post that I am starting to see the 
value 
> > in 
> > > > buying another module.  The PM-16 does have its 
limitations.  
> > For 
> > > > example, any pads connected to the PM-16 will sustain their 
> > sounds 
> > > > on any kit you choose.  So if you connected a pad with a 
> cowbell 
> > > > sound and then switched to your user-defined jazz kit, that 
pad 
> > > > would remain a cowbell and you would have to change its 
voice 
> > > > through the utility menu.  As you can tell once you gain 
lots 
> of 
> > > > extra pads and then want to change them for each different 
kit 
> > it 
> > > > becomes a sort of hassle just because you can't save their 
> > changes 
> > > > for each different kit.  Roland makes a new external midi 
> device 
> > > > called the TMC-6.  This costs $250.00 and only comes with 
six 
> > extra 
> > > > inputs but it has more cool functions than the PM-16.  t 
Keep 
> in 
> > > > mind though that these boxes are in no way another module.  
> > Another 
> > > > member also purchased a midikiti, which is another external 
> midi 
> > > > device but I'm not sure if it ever worked properly.  If you 
> > wanna 
> > > > know any more information about it or want a pic of it let 
me 
> > > know!  
> > > > Also, if anyone else wants to add more information about the 
PM-
> > 16 
> > > > please do!!
> > > > 
> > > > -UN.H
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" 
> > <njcarroll56@y...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hey, UN.H!  I note you've got a PM-16, which I assume is 
an 
> > > > ancillary 
> > > > > box that works with the DTXpress brain?  Can you tell me 
what 
> > it 
> > > > is, 
> > > > > and what it does, exactly? It is a Yamaha product?