Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I'm grasping at straws here, but did you save the original kit when 
you changed the note numbers? If not, they may have reverted back to 
default, which might explain why the settings didn't hold, though 
that wouldn't explain why you've lost sound completely. You didn't 
somehow mute all the channels on the Program Change, Bank Select 
page of the Song Job Mode, did you? I'm just not convinced that new 
note numbers can't be transferred to the data in a pad song. After 
all, new note numbers can be transferred to floating voices on the 
DTXpress for access by MIDI devices like my MidiKiti (after a reset 
on DTXII, which I don't have), which accesses voices corresponding 
to note numbers set in the utility menu regardless of which kit in 
the DTX I happen to be playing. If I thought that you might have 
forgotten to plug the damn thing in, I would have suggested that, 
too. Overlooking the simple things is often the reason for 
frustrating situations, as we have all found out. Most recently, 
check Vern's post about the mystery kit. 

By the way, other more labor-intensive--and probably not intended-- 
ways of laying percussion in DTX songs exist. One way is to record 
the song with the kit that you want, as you've already done. Then 
switch the original note numbers and voices within that kit to the 
rims of triggers that you don't use, and program the body of the 
pads for other voices with the note numbers originally set for the 
rims. You are essentially fooling the DTX into playing the song back 
as initially recorded, because it still recognizes the note numbers 
and voices, but you are also free to accompany the song with a 
second kit programmed to the pads. Get it? 

But, like you, I find it hard to give up on your problem at this 
point. If troubleshooting's starting to get you down, email Dave 
Kyski (dksyki@...), Head of Customer Support, who's 
particularly good with MIDI. While you're waiting for a reply, we 
can keep batting it around.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "herondrums" <herondrums@y...> 
wrote:
> Yep, it us the whole song that is not playing, and yep, all my 
volume 
> levels are up.  I have done a factory reset, and it is a DTX2. 
When I 
> look at the new settings for the note numbers it comes 
up "(drumkit 
> data)", so it must be assigning those numbers only for the 
original 
> kit. I'm starting to think this cannot be done (but I'm still 
> hoping)... I'm curious, this seems like something a drummer would 
buy 
> an electronic kit for, is to have layers of percussion available, 
or 
> do I just think that way because I was a conga/percussion player 
for 
> ten years before I picked up the set?  Do other electronic kits 
have 
> this feature available?  Hmmm.
> 
> Raven
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Oooh, did I misunderstand? The whole song, not just the 
percussion, 
> > isn't playing when you hit the pad? Check to make sure that none 
> of  
> > your original settings have drifted; the new note numbers for 
drum 
> > voices shouldn't affect what's coming from the tone generator on 
> > other channels. I'm too sleepy to think straight anymore.
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > Okay, let's try this. The page in the utility menu after Voice 
> > > (5.1), where you set the numbers for your chosen sounds, is 
> > Volume, 
> > > Pan (5.2), followed by other pages (5.3 to 5.6)that determine 
the 
> > > characteristics of the note numbers set in 5-1. Remember that 
> when 
> > > you moved the song from its original kit to the pad of another 
> > kit, 
> > > the voice characteristics associated with those numbers in the 
> > > original kit cannot follow it, because they are now in an 
alien  
> > > environment; the note numbers in the song are floating without 
> > > parameters. These pages in the utility menu restore them. I'm 
> > hoping 
> > > that the pad song is muted because the level of the individual 
> > > voices is low or nonexistent. If you were trying to access 
voices 
> > > outside of a particular chosen kit in the dtx from an external 
> > > sequencer or MIDI device, these are the pages that you would 
use. 
> > > The same should be true under these circumstances. Give it a 
try. 
> > > I'm assuming that you haven't changed any of the settings that 
> > > allowed pad song to work before.
> > > 
> > > By the way, do you have the DTXpress II? If so, did you do a 
> > factory 
> > > reset before you did anything else? After weeks of agonizing 
> about 
> > > why certain basic MIDI functions didn't seem to be working 
with 
> > new 
> > > modules, we discovered, with Yamaha's help, that out of the 
box, 
> > the 
> > > DTXpess brain had a bug that prevented MIDI transmission over 
> > > channel 10, and maybe other channels as well. The reset cured 
it. 
> > We 
> > > can leave the reset as a last resort, or contact Yamaha, if we 
> > can't 
> > > figure out what else to do. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "herondrums" 
<herondrums@y...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Ed,
> > > > 
> > > > I've tried what you suggested, I found blank notes in 120-
127, 
> > > When I 
> > > > try to play back the song in another kit, the song light 
blinks 
> > > like 
> > > > its playing, but no sound comes through(the song does play 
in 
> > the 
> > > > original kit).  I have channel 10 on and in vdrum(however, I 
am 
> > a 
> > > > novice so I could be doing something wrong) so I feel like 
> we're 
> > > > closer, but not quiter there. Ideas, anyone?
> > > > 
> > > > Raven
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Raven,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope you don't think that we're ignoring you. I'm 
actually 
> > > > writing 
> > > > > this in a rush. I'd venture a troubleshooting suggestion 
or 
> > two 
> > > > now, 
> > > > > but the truth is, I've forgotten the pad song function, 
and 
> > I'd 
> > > > have 
> > > > > to refresh my memory before I ventured anything that 
wouldn't 
> > > send 
> > > > > you off on a wildgoose chase. Hopefully, someone who's 
more 
> > > current 
> > > > > with it will emerge and help, but if not, I'll try to dig 
> into 
> > > it 
> > > > > late tonight or tomorrow morning. Weekends are sometimes 
slow 
> > > with 
> > > > > this group, but replies usually start flying on Monday. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ed
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "herondrums" 
> > <herondrums@y...> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hey all,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I've scoured my DTX2 manual and the message boards, and 
> > can't 
> > > > find 
> > > > > > the answer to this.  I have recorded a pad song that 
uses 
> > > congas 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > other assorted percussion, however, when I switch to a 
> > > different 
> > > > > kit, 
> > > > > > I lose the original sounds and only get the sounds that 
are 
> > > > > assigned 
> > > > > > to that kit. So I am getting playback of the song, but 
not 
> > > with 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > sounds I want(I'm not getting the piano sounds that 
others 
> > > have 
> > > > > had 
> > > > > > trouble with, its just that my congas turn to toms or 
> > whatever 
> > > is 
> > > > > > assigned to that kit). Can I do what I'm trying to, or 
is 
> it 
> > > > > beyond 
> > > > > > the capabilities of the DTX2?  I'm hoping the limitation 
is 
> > my 
> > > > > brain 
> > > > > > and not the DTX2's. I am a new owner, and love the set, 
but 
> > it 
> > > is 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > bit frustrating. Any help is really appreciated!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Raven