Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Stewart,

Notwithstanding Stephen and me, your disaffection with the HH65 may 
not be "you" at all. Though I'm not completely set in my ways, I 
predominantly like to play my hi hat closed, with strategic quick 
shhhhs here and there. HH65's limitation to a midpoint and fully 
open position didn't phase me all that much. But some people 
complain about restricted motion even in the fully variable 
controllers; they're more demanding about it than I am. That said, 
every piece of electronic drumming equipment seems to need a 
physical and emotional break-in period; with few exceptions, they 
just don't behave exacly like their acoustic counterparts. In a way, 
that fact is what eventually sets most of us on that endless course 
of upgrading and refining. Although my gut feeling is that you can 
adjust the 65 controller via its own physical knob and the module's 
internal settings to achieve relative harmony with your instincts, 
in the end, you may still have the feeling that the 65 can be 
bettered. In my experience, definite improvement is in the offing, 
but the controller alone wasn't what made me look for it.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700" <brown8700@a...> wrote:
> I have no 'real' problems with the Yamaha hi-hat. In fact, it's 
the 
> only thing on my DTX that I haven't switched out (other than the 
> module itself). I am, however, awaiting the release of the Pintech 
> Zenbal hi-hat. I'd like to switch the Yam TP60 pad out for the 
> Pintech, but keep the Yam pedal.
> Stephen
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
<moosetication@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hmm. I suspect you may (diplomatically) be saying "yes, Stewart, 
it 
> > may be you." Which is fine. Absolutely fine. No, really.
> > 
> > [turns green, bursts out of shirt ... realises Spaceman Spiff 
> > underpants don't really suit the Hulk image, hides in closet]
> > 
> > I agree with your position on the other end of the pedal. I 
really, 
> > really wish I had the space for the Visulite. The TP80S I'm 
using 
> > certainly has to go.
> > 
> > Stewart
> > 
> > --- "liberatusvirus" wrote:
> > > Hi Stewart,
> > > 
> > > It would be edifying to get people's impressions of their 
various 
> > hi 
> > > hats. I assume that most of the board members use the HH60, 
65, 
> or 
> > > 80 controllers; the fact that the Pintech controller requires 
the 
> > > same adaptor that the Rolands do with a Yamaha module might be 
> > > enough to dissuade potential interest in them. From my 
> > perspective, 
> > > when I had the 60, I wasn't all that unhappy with it. I 
> eventually 
> > > got the foot splashes and throw to behave decently. The fact 
that 
> > it 
> > > only had three recognizable positions--fully open, fully 
closed, 
> > and 
> > > mid-point--was only slightly annoying. What bothered me more 
than 
> > > the controller situation was what you were forced to hit, and 
if 
> > you 
> > > decided to switch, how limited the satisfactory options were, 
> > > especially since the Hart e-hats didn't appear to be perfectly 
> > > compatible with the Yamaha modules. I spent a lot of time 
using 
> > the 
> > > Drum Tech Pole Pad as my hi hat, which had certain triggering 
> > > advantages, but, in the end, Visu-lite's willingness to 
produce 
> > its 
> > > hi hat assembly for Yamaha modules solved my problem. Based on 
> the 
> > > HH80, and mounted on a traditional stand, it has an ungenious 
> > > ability to simulate acoustic action and response, to me at 
least. 
> > > The only other Yamaha user who has it thus far is Walt, 
although 
> > > Jade is saving pennies as we speak. I hope others of us join 
so 
> > that 
> > > we can compare notes on it.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
> > > <moosetication@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Or is the HH65 really... well, not that good?
> > > > 
> > > > I think, a month or so in, the hi-hat (overall) is my 
biggest 
> > > gripe 
> > > > so far, and the pedal in particular.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't like the range of travel, I don't like the 
sponginess, 
> > and 
> > > I 
> > > > don't like the irritating propensity for it to produce a 
splash 
> > if 
> > > > I'm even slightly imprecise about stamping on it just so 
when 
> > > > choking an open hat stroke. Or is my muscle memory of real 
hi-
> > hat 
> > > > pedals suffering from Alzheimer's?
> > > > 
> > > > If it's not just me, what would the panel recommend as a 
> > > replacement?
> > > > 
> > > > Stewart