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Re: [DTXpress] Re: How to for newbie

2003-12-05 by distortion@rogers.com

Ok...?
I didn't need this info, but thanx... it was D. who had the problem..
gord



rdamon@... wrote:

> Gord,
>
> I started out with two complete DtxpressII kits. Using just two modules, I
> did run a midi cable from module 1 to module 2 for the sole purpose of
> sending a midi control change code for kit increment/kit decrement from a
> BP80 connected to zone 9/10 on module 1 that would pass through to 
> module 2.
> By hitting the left pad of the BP80, both modules would go from kit 60 to
> 59, 59 to 58 etc. and by hitting the right pad of the BP80, both modules
> would go from 58 to 59, 59 to 60, etc.   But even with that, all of the
> sound was still sent out the left/right output jacks on the rear of the
> modules to a mixer. My music sources were then fed directly into the 
> mixer,
> which gives me excellent control over sound levels between the three 
> modules
> and the music source.
>
> When I got my third module and extra pads, I stop using the midi for that
> purpose. (If your next question is "How did you do it?", at this point it
> has been almost a year since I did it, I would be hard pressed to remember
> the right settings without going back throught menus again.)
>
> OGD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:      webc1958 [SMTP:delcamroy@...]
> > Sent:      Friday, December 05, 2003 2:58 PM
> > To:      DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:      [DTXpress] Re: How to for newbie
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, distortion@r... wrote:
> > > > D. and Gord,
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This may well be a case in which someone thinks that the only
> > way
> > > to
> > > > > add a second module to a kit for more inputs is through MIDI.
> > > > > Actually, this method is redundant at best and, well, . . .
> > wrong
> > > at
> > > > > worst. If you were to use a dedicated input to MIDI device, like
> > > > > Roland's TMC-6, you would indeed use a MIDI connection from the
> > > slave
> > > > > device to access MIDI note numbers on the DTXPress II module.
> > > >
> > > > And THAT would use MIDI...   you contradicted yourself...   This
> > > would
> > > > also run the possiblility of having the DTX polyphony run out,
> > > depending
> > > > on the voice structure of the kit being played.
> > >
> > > Gord.
> > >
> > > I was making the distinction between a purely MIDI-connected device-
> > -
> > > like the TMC-6, the Kat MIDIKITI, the Roland PM-16 et al.--which
> > has
> > > no sounds of its own, and a second sound module, of the DTXpress  
> > > sort, which does not need to access its sounds through a MIDI
> > > connection. The DTXpress does have limited MIDI note numbers for
> > the
> > > purpose of a MIDI slave device used in conjunction with the
> > DTXpress
> > > itself, but many of us (including me, for years) have used such a
> > > device to good effect for as many as six or more inputs. I fail to
> > > see the self-contradiction (unless I were saying that the only way
> > to
> > > add inputs is via MIDI, and I'm not).
> > >
> > > > > But if
> > > > > you simply want the benefit of two drum modules, each with its
> > own
> > > > > inputs, sounds, and audio outputs, what you need is an
> > inexpensive
> > > > > mixer--on the order of the Rolls MX28 or one of the (dare I say
> > > it)
> > > > > Behringers, or others--which can accept audio output
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But we don't know what D. wants, as we can't tell from the
> > > question.
> > > > Offering all these solutions without truly knowing what D. wants
> > > could
> > > > just serve to confuse the issue.
> > > > The problem with tech questions is that we sometimes want to dive
> > > into a
> > > > solution without first totally identifying the TRUE needs, always
> > > needs
> > > > more WHYs to clarify and diagnose, then solve.
> > > >
> > > > Reminds me of the story of a guy that bought a computer system
> > from
> > > an
> > > > online retailer... he got it all shipped, and then complained
> > that
> > > it
> > > > was all in pieces.. but he never did order a pre-built
> > computer...
> > > just
> > > > the parts... he never explained his needs, and the retailer never
> > > > asked... a buddy just told him what components to get... he got
> > > what he
> > > > ordered, but not what he wanted.
> > >
> > > True, we don't know for sure, and all of us are capable of being
> > > wrong, misinformed, and unclear about many things. But we've seen
> > > this situation come up a lot over the years on this board.
> > Hazarding
> > > an informed guess at this point won't ruin anyone's day; nothing is
> > > etched in stone. And if this is indeed what D was trying to do all
> > > along, we may have skipped everyone an extra step or two.
> > >
> > > Ed
> >
> > Thank you for your feedback, I will clarify:   I have two full kits,
> > with brains, now.   I just want a bigger kit. I was under the
> > impression that you could connect one brain via midi   to the other
> > and monitor the entire kit from the 'last' brain (ie. brain 2)... I
> > suspectfrom reading some of the replies that it is ridiculously
> > difficult to attempt and that the inexpensive 4-6 channel mixer would
> > be the best option, yes?
> > Sorry for any confusion, but if there is a way to hook them up via
> > midi for this type of monitoring (function)great (I just don't know
> > how and the manual doesn't state it explicitly.  
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > D.
> >
> >
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