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[DTXpress] Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data

2004-01-26 by Monsieur_Benoit

Hi all,
Basically, as far as I know about editor (for synths), you should do with an editor/librarian :
As a librarian :
- open a sysex or request a dump (bulk dumps or partial dumps : only a song, a kit....)
- view all the data on screen, in a big array for exemple
- move, switch or delete elements
- send the whole data, or just a part (a kit...)
- save the data, as sysex, and/or as proprietary if you're adding stuff (comments, other informations)
As an editor (most of the time in librarian, you double-click on an element to edit it and an editor window opens) /
- change parameters (voices, effects...)
sometimes modules can accept realtime sysex, so when you're tweaking the patch on your computer, you're sending realtime sysex, and so editing the sound directly in the buffer of the module.
but for old synths, or simpler modules, you can't edit in realtime, so you have to request a dump / edit / send the data, and then you can hear the difference. I guess that the DTXpress systems are working with this second option.
For examples, you can see some screenshots of a synth editor/librarian here : http://www.soundtower.com/synth/triton.htm
You can also download and try the demo version of Midiquest, a multi synth editor librarian : http://www.squest.com/Windows/MidiQuest-About.html
Finally, once again, as you're planning to developp under Java, I would recommend to have a look at Jsynthlib, an Open Source Universal Synthesizer Patch Editor / Librarian written in the Java Language. : http://www.overwhelmed.org/jsynthlib/
Maybe you can add support of the DTXpress into Jsynthlib, or at least grab some code parts if you want to start from scratch...
(another idea : I would maybe nice to have a tool for translating a midifile into DTXpress language and then send it with sysex as a song... maybe a little bit out of the project)
Hope this can help
Regards,
Benoit
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:43 AM
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data


I noticed that the Sysex formats have been posted in the files
section. I read them over and they don't look terribly complicated.
Using the javax.sound.midi package it should be fairly
straightforward to build an application to manage this information.
Note that this will still have to wait until the DTXIIISP arrives and
allocate a weekend or two to the task.

What would people like to see in this application?

A few ideas I had:
- XML (text based) format export/import so that people can hand
modify files or write other utilities to muck with them.
- A "my kits/songs/etc" so that you could create a really large
(limited only by disk space) db of these items and then pick and
choose them for a certain "load". + List of Favorite loads.
- The ability to multi-select items (ex: kits) and modify params
for all selected items in one action (ex: volume). Should be able to
do this absolute (ex: set to 70) or relative (ex: +10).
- Copy & Swap things from one kit to another.

Hmmm, me thinks I'm talking myself into more than a weekend or
two of work...

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jjcorley0000" wrote:
>
> Can you post the information to the website or the files area
> here?
>
> While I reluctantly admit that I have the skills/experience to
> handle such a task (Java/C++, GUI, embedded software, mucking with
> bits in files):
>
> a) I'm waiting on the IIISP, so I don't yet have a system for
> testing.
>
> b) I'm not sure how much time I can really dedicate to such a
> task.
>
> That said, I'd like to see the data formats so I can get an
idea
> of the level of effort. If I were to put something together, I'd
> likely do it in Java so our non-MS friends wouldn't be SOL.
>
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer"
wrote:
> > Ok, I now have the Sysex Bulk Dump Data from Yamaha for the
> > DTxpressII and DtxpressIII. Let's see if we can coordinate who
> wants
> > to tackle what, in generating a program for seting up/changing
> > settings on a PC.
> >
> > OGD



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