Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

These are all excellent ideas. 

From my point of view, with three modules, just being able to 
upload/download the kit settings and trigger settings, one module at 
a time, into the PC, and editing them, would be a 1000 percent 
improvement.

I would just suggest that unless you have alot a spare time on your 
hands, which is probably not the case for most folks, is to keep if 
basic and simple. If the project program becomes overly complicated, 
trying to accommodate everybody's wishlist, then it may not get 
finished. (i.e. Drumb and Drumber Manual) 

At where I work, we would talk about generating a detail 
program/shreadsheet for panelboard calculations. The problem was that 
a gigantic wishlist was generated and the project just never got 
complete. I went and generated a simple spreadsheet that does the job 
and everybody is now using it. If we had waited for the perfect 
program, we would still be waiting and doing the calculations 
manually. I have updated the spreadsheet a dozen times over the 
years, as time became available and it is still being used.

Since the Sysex, is slightly different for the Dtxpress I/II/III, it 
maybe better to keep it simplier, so that it can be adapted for use 
with all these modules, as oppose, having just one complex program 
for just one module. But if you end up with a dtxpress III, I fully 
understand, spending you effect exclusively concentrating on it.

But ultimately, you will have to decide on the difficulty factor and 
your available time.

If there are any specific technical information or question that you 
need as your are working through the programming task, I can pass 
them onto Yamaha, as they seem to be responding to my requests as a 
moderator here, very quickly.



OldGuyDrummer (OGD)



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Monsieur_Benoit" 
<monsieur_benoit@y...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Basically, as far as I know about editor (for synths), you should 
do with an editor/librarian :
> 
> As a librarian :
> 
> - open a sysex or request a dump (bulk dumps or partial dumps : 
only a song, a kit....)
> - view all the data on screen, in a big array for exemple
> - move, switch or delete elements
> - send the whole data, or just a part (a kit...)
> - save the data, as sysex, and/or as proprietary if you're adding 
stuff (comments, other informations)
> 
> As an editor (most of the time in librarian, you double-click on an 
element to edit it and an editor window opens) / 
> - change parameters (voices, effects...)
> sometimes modules can accept realtime sysex, so when you're 
tweaking the patch on your computer, you're sending realtime sysex, 
and so editing the sound directly in the buffer of the module.
> but for old synths, or simpler modules, you can't edit in realtime, 
so you have to request a dump / edit / send the data, and then you 
can hear the difference. I guess that the DTXpress systems are 
working with this second option.
> 
> For examples, you can see some screenshots of a synth 
editor/librarian here : http://www.soundtower.com/synth/triton.htm
> You can also download and try the demo version of Midiquest, a 
multi synth editor librarian  : 
http://www.squest.com/Windows/MidiQuest-About.html
> 
> Finally, once again, as you're planning to developp under Java, I 
would recommend to have a look at Jsynthlib, an Open Source Universal 
Synthesizer Patch Editor / Librarian written in the Java Language. : 
http://www.overwhelmed.org/jsynthlib/ 
> 
> Maybe you can add support of the DTXpress into Jsynthlib, or at 
least grab some code parts if you want to start from scratch...
> 
> (another idea : I would maybe nice to have a tool for translating a 
midifile into DTXpress language and then send it with sysex as a 
song... maybe a little bit out of the project)
> 
> Hope this can help
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Benoit
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: jjcorley0000 
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:43 AM
>   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data
> 
> 
> 
>       I noticed that the Sysex formats have been posted in the 
files 
>   section.  I read them over and they don't look terribly 
complicated.  
>   Using the javax.sound.midi package it should be fairly 
>   straightforward to build an application to manage this 
information.  
>   Note that this will still have to wait until the DTXIIISP arrives 
and 
>   allocate a weekend or two to the task.
> 
>       What would people like to see in this application?
> 
>       A few ideas I had:
>       - XML (text based) format export/import so that people can 
hand 
>   modify files or write other utilities to muck with them.
>       - A "my kits/songs/etc" so that you could create a really 
large 
>   (limited only by disk space) db of these items and then pick and 
>   choose them for a certain "load".  + List of Favorite loads.
>       - The ability to multi-select items (ex: kits) and modify 
params 
>   for all selected items in one action (ex: volume).  Should be 
able to 
>   do this absolute (ex: set to 70) or relative (ex: +10).
>       - Copy & Swap things from one kit to another.
> 
>       Hmmm, me thinks I'm talking myself into more than a weekend 
or 
>   two of work...
> 
>   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jjcorley0000" <jjc@s...> wrote:
>   > 
>   >     Can you post the information to the website or the files 
area 
>   > here?
>   > 
>   >     While I reluctantly admit that I have the skills/experience 
to 
>   > handle such a task (Java/C++, GUI, embedded software, mucking 
with 
>   > bits in files):
>   > 
>   >     a)  I'm waiting on the IIISP, so I don't yet have a system 
for 
>   > testing.
>   > 
>   >     b)  I'm not sure how much time I can really dedicate to 
such a 
>   > task.
>   > 
>   >     That said, I'd like to see the data formats so I can get an 
>   idea 
>   > of the level of effort.  If I were to put something together, 
I'd 
>   > likely do it in Java so our non-MS friends wouldn't be SOL.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> 
>   wrote:
>   > > Ok, I now have the Sysex Bulk Dump Data from Yamaha for the 
>   > > DTxpressII and DtxpressIII. Let's see if we can coordinate 
who 
>   > wants 
>   > > to tackle what, in generating a program for seting 
up/changing