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Re: [DTXpress] Re: anyone use ddrum acoustic triggers?

2004-03-22 by Brett

I have the smae problems with my acoustic kick and ddrum triggers...No matter what rejection settings i tried, I could never get it to trigger the right sound with double triggering.  If I set the setting to control it too high, I could not use double bass due to it cutting off hits...uugghh.  I got so frustrated that I gave up on it for the time being.  If anyone knows a way to bypass the problem, I'd be interested in hearing it as well.
 
Brett

emf <liberatusvirus@...> wrote:
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tfkienle" <tfkienle@y...> wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> I definitely have been trying to keep the rejection settings as low 
> as possible, but the acoustic kick quickly "double talks" because 
of 
> the vibrating heads or the "slap back" of the resonant head.  The 
> redshot trigger is mounted on the batter head side.  right now, the 
> kick is in our studio, which is a carpeted floor.  the pad I 
noticed 
> the cut-off with is my hi hat, a tp60, but then i tested it with 
all 
> the other tp pads & they all do the same thing.  the kick isn't 
> touching the rack, which contains all drums except the snare.  i'm 
> gonna dig out the ddrum redshot manual & just spend a night in 
there 
> alone w/ that shizznit & hope I can sort it out.  If not, I'll have 
> to use my pintech for recording, as I will definitely keep the 
> acoustic for live use.

Geez, the strange thing is that the drop outs are happening to a 
trigger that appears to have no physical bridge to any others. 
Usually a drop out that occurs when another pad fires is the result 
of a high rejection setting, or if it drops out on its own accord, of 
a high self-rejection. If neither is the case, then the redshot would 
be the likely suspect, but the snare, which also has one on it, isn't 
misfiring. 

Sorry if I'm being redundant. But if you nil the kick's rejection and 
specific rejection settings, do you get the same results? Or if you 
nil the self-rejection settings (regardless of the double triggers)? 

If it's not too much to ask, could I impose on you to let me know 
whether your troubleshooting and/or manual reading has any success.

> as for the drumtech flatpads, they rock.  period.  they are 
probably 
> the best-made edrum pad (non-woven) that exists.  built like a 
tank, 
> but incredibly bouncy & a nice 10 inches in diameter, with no rim.  
> they blow the yamaha pads away, but keep in mind, they mount with 
the 
> old 7/8" "pipe-style" tom arms, so you might need some hardware to 
> mount them.  I have 2 for my main toms currently, & have replaced 
the 
> snare one w/ the acoustic.  I'll probably replace another of the 
> tp60's w/ my third drumtech.

I'm not surprised. The build quality of my Pole Pad and Kick Pad is 
also excellent, as is the triggering. I happily use mesh pads mounted 
on a Pearl rack primarily with a ddrum module, but the Drum Tech 
appeals to me. Sherpa was going to send me their 11" pad to review, 
even so far as checking the address twice to send it, but never did. 
I've given up on that one. I may well ask Drum Tech if they'd lend us 
one to audition through a bunch of different modules so that we can 
write up a report for the group. 

Ed



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