Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hey guys (m/f), 

This week I received my two new PCY65S's for my DTXPII kit. I ordered them August 16th 
at Thomann (for 218 euro's, including CYAT65 arms and shipping costs), they immediately 
mailed that I had to wait for two months. Luckily, the new pads arrived three weeks sooner 
than I expected. So now I have those two empty inputs used (I just couldn't psychologically 
cope with the two empty ones). After long-lasting doubts on how to expand, and, after 
deciding, what felt like a long time to wait, they're finally here! 

Before the PCY65S's arrived I used the PCY65S for ride, the PCY65 for hi-hat, and the TP65 
for crash because the TP65 did not feel right as a hi-hat. But the crash-feel of the TP65 
obviously is also terrible, so my new set-up is: PCY65S into 1, 6, and 7, and the 
KP65+TP65 into 9/10, the PCY65 as hi-hat and the rest as usual. Putting one PCY65S into 
1 means I lose the choke function but that's a small drawback. A plus of this set-up is that 
I only had to change the 1->9 trigger setting before I was able to play. Looking at the set-
up, and playing it, only now it feels as if it's "complete". Btw the new pads look much 
darker: is it different rubber or is it just because they're new?

I have some problems in finding what feels like the right set-up, ergonomically speaking. 
Whether a pad feels like it's in the right position, or should be moved a bit to the left, or 
back to the right, or perhaps to another arm, or perhaps I should, etc. What really bothers 
me here is the stupidity of the clamp design. Of course, Yamaha should have had clamps 
that can be detached without having to completely dissassemble the set-up (I assume this 
is the same with the III/IIISP/DTXT?).  Anyway, it'll probably take a few months to get the 
perfect configuration. Another point is the voices, it will probably take much longer to 
find/design satisfactory cymbal voices, especially since I'm always too eager to play (which 
means that I'll postpone the tweaking and fine tuning of the voices every time I'm behind 
the kit).

 And now I read that expanding the kit with a TP120S really is a huge step forward. 
Hmmmm, interesting....

Erik Paul

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "epvk_jahoe" <yahoo@e...> wrote:
Anyway, it'll probably take a few months to get the 
> perfect configuration. Another point is the voices, it will 
probably take much longer to 
> find/design satisfactory cymbal voices, especially since I'm always 
too eager to play (which 
> means that I'll postpone the tweaking and fine tuning of the voices 
every time I'm behind 
> the kit).
> 
>  And now I read that expanding the kit with a TP120S really is a 
huge step forward. 
> Hmmmm, interesting....

Erik Paul,

Welcome to the group, and the slippery slope. Better to realize right 
here and now that tweaking and upgrading (or thinking about 
upgrading) never ends. 

Ed

Ed

Erik,
 
Yamaha did burn me some new ROM Chips for my Dtxpress II modules that
restored the choking function to inputs 1-8. If you really need it, you may
want to contact Yamaha. I not sure if they will do it, but it doen't hurt to
check.
 
 The clamping issue has been raised with Yamaha several times. What it comes
down to is trying to hit a price point with the kit. For example, if the kit
came with removable clamps would you have been willing to spend say $1200US
on it compared to say $1000US. Once you have to spend $1200 on a kit, would
you then be inclined to compare it with a $1500 kit that someone else makes
and thus lose the sales altogether. 
 
The removable clamps do not come on any of the new Yamaha kits. I mentioned
it to Yamaha that they should have at least offered a Dtxtreme IIStd with
the non-removable clamps and a Dtxtreme IISpro (professional) with the heavy
duty removable clamps. As I and many others would have paid more for the
upgrade. But if only 3 percent of the folks that buy the kit are willing to
pay $200 extra, it is probably not economical for them to produce two kit
styles, when the majority would rather save the money and just deal with the
inconvience of the clamps. Once the kit gets setup, they really only get
moved around when you buy something new anyway.
 
And the TP120Sd is a huge improvement of a TP65S.
 
OGD

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From: epvk_jahoe Subject: [DTXpress] new pads




 "  Putting one PCY65S into 
1 means I lose the choke function but that's a small drawback. "   
 
 " And now I read that expanding the kit with a TP120S really is a huge step
forward. 
Hmmmm, interesting.... " 

Erik Paul


 
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Hi everyone,

I recently bought a DTXpress kit. This drum is really
funny. I wonder if it is possible to have two sounds
(i.e. snare and rim shot) on a classical dtxpress pad
? If not, whatelse could I do ? Same on the classical
dtxpress cymbal pad ?
Is it possible to mix dtxpress module with dtxpressII
or III pad ?

Thanks to all



		
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Welcome,
 
All of the dtxpress II & III and the dtxtreme IIS pads will work on the
dtxpress I module, but with limitations.
 
The TP65S and the PCY150S are three zone stereo input pads, of which, only
two zones will work on the Dxtpress I module.
 
The TP100 and TP120S are also three zone stereo input pads, of which, only
two zones will work on the Dtxpress I module. The red adjustment knob on
these pads will only work on the Dtxtreme IIS module.
 
The RHH130 that comes with the Dtxpress IIISP and the Dtxtreme IIS will also
work on the Dtxpress I module.
 
Since inputs 1-8 on the Dtxpress I are all stereo inputs (2 zones- pad &
rim), by plugging a stereo pad (using a stereo cable-tip/ring/sleeve) into
these will give you the two sounds you desire per pad.
Hope this helps and welcome aboard.
 
OGD

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From: laurent bob Subject: Re: [DTXpress] 2 sounds on 1 pad


Hi everyone,

I recently bought a DTXpress kit. This drum is really
funny. I wonder if it is possible to have two sounds
(i.e. snare and rim shot) on a classical dtxpress pad
? If not, whatelse could I do ? Same on the classical
dtxpress cymbal pad ?
Is it possible to mix dtxpress module with dtxpressII
or III pad ?

Thanks to all



 
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Hi OGD, 

>Yamaha did burn me some new ROM Chips for my Dtxpress II modules that
>restored the choking function to inputs 1-8. If you really need it, you may
>want to contact Yamaha. I not sure if they will do it, but it doen't hurt to
>check.

I guess I'm OK, but just in case... on which one of the many 
Yamaha websites should I ask?

Erik Paul

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "epvk_jahoe" <yahoo@e...> wrote:
> Hi OGD, 
> 
> >Yamaha did burn me some new ROM Chips for my Dtxpress II modules 
that
> >restored the choking function to inputs 1-8. If you really need 
it, you may
> >want to contact Yamaha. I not sure if they will do it, but it 
doen't hurt to
> >check.
> 
> I guess I'm OK, but just in case... on which one of the many 
> Yamaha websites should I ask?
> 
> Erik Paul

Start with Yamahammer at the www.dtxperience.com site.

OGD

Thanks for your answer.
I'll try to change the kick pad first, then maybe the
snare drum.


--- rdamon@... wrote:

> Welcome,
>  
> All of the dtxpress II & III and the dtxtreme IIS
> pads will work on the
> dtxpress I module, but with limitations.
>  
> The TP65S and the PCY150S are three zone stereo
> input pads, of which, only
> two zones will work on the Dxtpress I module.
>  
> The TP100 and TP120S are also three zone stereo
> input pads, of which, only
> two zones will work on the Dtxpress I module. The
> red adjustment knob on
> these pads will only work on the Dtxtreme IIS
> module.
>  
> The RHH130 that comes with the Dtxpress IIISP and
> the Dtxtreme IIS will also
> work on the Dtxpress I module.
>  
> Since inputs 1-8 on the Dtxpress I are all stereo
> inputs (2 zones- pad &
> rim), by plugging a stereo pad (using a stereo
> cable-tip/ring/sleeve) into
> these will give you the two sounds you desire per
> pad.
> Hope this helps and welcome aboard.
>  
> OGD
> 
>    _____  
> 
> From: laurent bob Subject: Re: [DTXpress] 2 sounds
> on 1 pad
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I recently bought a DTXpress kit. This drum is
> really
> funny. I wonder if it is possible to have two sounds
> (i.e. snare and rim shot) on a classical dtxpress
> pad
> ? If not, whatelse could I do ? Same on the
> classical
> dtxpress cymbal pad ?
> Is it possible to mix dtxpress module with
> dtxpressII
> or III pad ?
> 
> Thanks to all
> 
> 
> 
>  
>
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