Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

There is a menu item under the utilities that will swap out input 1 with
9/10 made just for the purpose you describe. Just move the KP65+tom5 to
input 9/10 and the crash to input 1. The signal coming from physical input
no.1(crash) will be redirected to input 9 and the signal coming from
physical input no. 9 (kick)  will be redirected to input no. 1.
 
If you were not having any crosstalk problems before you moved the TP65,
then it is probably from having to hit the Zenbal harder that is causing the
crosstalk now. You may have to just set the specific rejection between the
hihat input 8 and the snare input 2 or move the hihat pad to the alternate
mounting location on the mounting tube with the module. You will have to
setup input no. 10 and set it for the correct pad type and set the rejection
settings based on where you mount the pad on the rack.
 
As far as it not being loud enough, have you tried to adjust the volume for
the pad higher, or tried changing the velocity curve?  I don't believe their
is a attenuation switch for that input on the back of the module. Is there a
sensitivity adjustment screw on the Zenbal, like there is on the Yamaha
pads?
 
I don't have the manual in  front of me, so I can't give a more precise
answer than that until later tonight.
 
OGD 

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From: jggallow  
 
 Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:34 PM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] DT Express II Configuration - Help me with this one,
somebody!



Let me give you the before and after on my mission here.

I just bought a Pintech Zenbal single zone High Hat to replace the 
TP65 Yamaha pad that came with the set (I didn't like the unnatural 
feeling and shape of the TP65). I now want to use the TP65 as 
another Tom.  Currently, Input 9/10 is being used for another Crash 
cymbal I bought separately.  Hence, all of the inputs behing the 
module are populated.  Because the end result of this upgrade is 
that I've added one pad to my configuration, the only place it can 
plug into is the input jack on the KP kick pedal.  The instructions 
say to utilize that, a cable from the output on the KP MUST connect 
to Input 9/10 on the module.  To do this, I must now unplug the KP 
cable from Input 1 and move it to Input 9/10 to get that extra Tom 
working.  However, that also means I have to unplug the current 
crash cymbal in Input 9/10.  I still want to use that as well, but 
the only available Input now is Input 1 (the now-empty labeled Kick).

My questions are:

1.  How do I permanently "remap" Input 1 (labeled Kick) to now be a 
Crash Cymbal.  By permanent, I don't mean just creating my own kit 
and storing it as Kit #49 or #50.  I mean, if I chose to play kit 
type "Big Reverb" the crash cymbal would make a cymbal noise - not a 
bass drum noise that the module thinks is connected to it.  I'm sure 
there's a way to do a permanent remap - I just don't understand how 
to do it.

2.  I kind of know how to configure Input 9/10 now to be both a bass 
drum and a tom, but I have the same kind of question.  How do I 
permanently remap that configuration so if I chose to use a canned 
pre-set kit type, like Big Reverb or Rock Dry 2, the module will 
play a bass drum sound when I kick - not a Cymbal.

3.  My new Pintech high-hat is, out-of-the-box, very quiet and I 
have to hit it hard to get a decent sound out of it.  How do I 
manipulate that non-Yamaha cymbal to produce a nice heavy Hi-hat 
sound without having to swing hard at it.

4.  I'm also getting a fair-amount of cross talk when hitting the 
new hi-hat.  I'm hearing the newly added Tom (TP65) and the snare 
drum as well when striking the Hi-hat.  I think there are some 
rejection settings there that may work for this, but it's unclear.


 
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Old Guy:

Thanks for your response.  

I have my manual with me at work, but I'm not seeing any UTIL mode 
that talks specifically about swapping those two Inputs.  Is it 
called a "swap" or "remap" command?  I don't think it's the Map Copy 
command - that's more about copying a preset drum kit source to 
another location.  Is it the Pad Type setup under the Trigger Setup 
Edit Mode?  I don't think that's it either....

If you have any more specifics on how to do it, or what the name of 
the UTIL command is, I'd greatly appreciate.

In regards to the crosstalk, the new hi-hat snare and extra tom are 
all connected to the "snare bar."  Are the vibrations causin that 
crosstalk.  maybe I should mount the h-hat on an old stand.  Would 
that help?


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> There is a menu item under the utilities that will swap out input 
1 with
> 9/10 made just for the purpose you describe. Just move the 
KP65+tom5 to
> input 9/10 and the crash to input 1. The signal coming from 
physical input
> no.1(crash) will be redirected to input 9 and the signal coming 
from
> physical input no. 9 (kick)  will be redirected to input no. 1.
>  
> If you were not having any crosstalk problems before you moved the 
TP65,
> then it is probably from having to hit the Zenbal harder that is 
causing the
> crosstalk now. You may have to just set the specific rejection 
between the
> hihat input 8 and the snare input 2 or move the hihat pad to the 
alternate
> mounting location on the mounting tube with the module. You will 
have to
> setup input no. 10 and set it for the correct pad type and set the 
rejection
> settings based on where you mount the pad on the rack.
>  
> As far as it not being loud enough, have you tried to adjust the 
volume for
> the pad higher, or tried changing the velocity curve?  I don't 
believe their
> is a attenuation switch for that input on the back of the module. 
Is there a
> sensitivity adjustment screw on the Zenbal, like there is on the 
Yamaha
> pads?
>  
> I don't have the manual in  front of me, so I can't give a more 
precise
> answer than that until later tonight.
>  
> OGD 
> 
>    _____  
> 
> From: jggallow  
>  
>  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:34 PM
> To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DTXpress] DT Express II Configuration - Help me with 
this one,
> somebody!
> 
> 
> 
> Let me give you the before and after on my mission here.
> 
> I just bought a Pintech Zenbal single zone High Hat to replace the 
> TP65 Yamaha pad that came with the set (I didn't like the 
unnatural 
> feeling and shape of the TP65). I now want to use the TP65 as 
> another Tom.  Currently, Input 9/10 is being used for another 
Crash 
> cymbal I bought separately.  Hence, all of the inputs behing the 
> module are populated.  Because the end result of this upgrade is 
> that I've added one pad to my configuration, the only place it can 
> plug into is the input jack on the KP kick pedal.  The 
instructions 
> say to utilize that, a cable from the output on the KP MUST 
connect 
> to Input 9/10 on the module.  To do this, I must now unplug the KP 
> cable from Input 1 and move it to Input 9/10 to get that extra Tom 
> working.  However, that also means I have to unplug the current 
> crash cymbal in Input 9/10.  I still want to use that as well, but 
> the only available Input now is Input 1 (the now-empty labeled 
Kick).
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> 1.  How do I permanently "remap" Input 1 (labeled Kick) to now be 
a 
> Crash Cymbal.  By permanent, I don't mean just creating my own kit 
> and storing it as Kit #49 or #50.  I mean, if I chose to play kit 
> type "Big Reverb" the crash cymbal would make a cymbal noise - not 
a 
> bass drum noise that the module thinks is connected to it.  I'm 
sure 
> there's a way to do a permanent remap - I just don't understand 
how 
> to do it.
> 
> 2.  I kind of know how to configure Input 9/10 now to be both a 
bass 
> drum and a tom, but I have the same kind of question.  How do I 
> permanently remap that configuration so if I chose to use a canned 
> pre-set kit type, like Big Reverb or Rock Dry 2, the module will 
> play a bass drum sound when I kick - not a Cymbal.
> 
> 3.  My new Pintech high-hat is, out-of-the-box, very quiet and I 
> have to hit it hard to get a decent sound out of it.  How do I 
> manipulate that non-Yamaha cymbal to produce a nice heavy Hi-hat 
> sound without having to swing hard at it.
> 
> 4.  I'm also getting a fair-amount of cross talk when hitting the 
> new hi-hat.  I'm hearing the newly added Tom (TP65) and the snare 
> drum as well when striking the Hi-hat.  I think there are some 
> rejection settings there that may work for this, but it's unclear.
> 
> 
>  
> 
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