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2004-11-01 by Nick Carroll
Can anyone tell me how to layer two voices together on the DTXtreme IIS? I knew how to do this on the DTXpress I, which I have just traded in, but can't find instructions in the DTXtreme IIS user manual. I bought my DTXT two days ago and have spent a lot of time looking for all the sounds I had saved on my DTXP user kits, but in several instances I had layered one voice on top of another. Is it not possible to do that in Xtreme-land?
2004-11-01 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com
Nick, I am work and on the way out the door.. so quick answer. In the Dtxtreme IIS it is not as logical as in the Dtxpress. If you just want one voice, you select similar to the Dtxpress in the voice menu. In the Dtxtreme, you have to setup the multiple voices in the trigger menu. You can set up to six layered simultaneous voices. Unless someone else jumps in with a more detailed response, I will see what I can do tonight or tomorrow. OGD _____
From: Nick Carroll [mailto:njcarroll56@...] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:22 AM To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DTXpress] Layering two voices Can anyone tell me how to layer two voices together on the DTXtreme IIS? I knew how to do this on the DTXpress I, which I have just traded in, but can't find instructions in the DTXtreme IIS user manual. I bought my DTXT two days ago and have spent a lot of time looking for all the sounds I had saved on my DTXP user kits, but in several instances I had layered one voice on top of another. Is it not possible to do that in Xtreme-land? Community email addresses: Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress> Alternate DTXpress site: http://www.dtxpressions.com <http://www.dtxpressions.com> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129b8n8qd/M=315388.5543472.6613714.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705031972:HM/EXP=1099390922/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*https://www .orchardbank.com/hcs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply&media=EMYHNL40F21004SS> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=315388.5543472.6613714.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2372354/rand=931161344> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ************************************************************************** The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information intended only for use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________
2004-11-02 by Nick Carroll
Cheers, and thanks OGD. I really do need a hand to decipher the handbook instructions, which I must have skipped over several times. --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote: > Nick, > > I am work and on the way out the door.. so quick answer. In the Dtxtreme IIS > it is not as logical as in the Dtxpress. If you just want one voice, you > select similar to the Dtxpress in the voice menu. In the Dtxtreme, you have > to setup the multiple voices in the trigger menu. You can set up to six > layered simultaneous voices. Unless someone else jumps in with a more > detailed response, I will see what I can do tonight or tomorrow. > > OGD > > _____ > > From: Nick Carroll [mailto:njcarroll56@y...] > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:22 AM > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DTXpress] Layering two voices > > > > Can anyone tell me how to layer two voices together on the DTXtreme > IIS? I knew how to do this on the DTXpress I, which I have just > traded in, but can't find instructions in the DTXtreme IIS user > manual. I bought my DTXT two days ago and have spent a lot of time > looking for all the sounds I had saved on my DTXP user kits, but in > several instances I had layered one voice on top of another. Is it > not possible to do that in Xtreme-land? > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress> > > Alternate DTXpress site: > http://www.dtxpressions.com <http://www.dtxpressions.com> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129b8n8qd/M=315388.5543472.6613714.30011 76/D=gr > plch/S=1705031972:HM/EXP=1099390922/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*http s://www > .orchardbank.com/hcs/hcsapplication? pf=PLApply&media=EMYHNL40F21004SS> click > here > > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l? M=315388.5543472.6613714.3001176/D=grplch/S= > :HM/A=2372354/rand=931161344> > > _____ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/ > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/> > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > _____________________________________________________________________ _ > > > ********************************************************************* ***** > The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information intended only > for use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader > of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > _____________________________________________________________________ _
2004-11-03 by oldguydrummer
Nick, Here goes nothing, it should be clear as mud when I finish, as I am still trying to figure out why they did it this way. When you go to the Voice menu, and you turn the first knob [Voice1] counterclockwise until you see the lowest midi note number/name 13C#- 1, the Type = Percs1; the Voice=SurdoM. As you scroll up through the midi note number/name list from 13C#-1 (which is note number 13 and midi note C#-1) up to note number/name of 94A#5 (which is note number 94 and mide note A#5) that a different instrument group and voice number is assigned to each mide note. There are a total of 82 assignable note numbers 13 through 94 (C#-1 to A#5) for this module. The note numbers 0-12 and 95-127 cannot be used for pad voices, but only for mide control events [see page 42,3- Note#, under Settings, *note number]. The module comes with these notes already preset so they can be used with the factory preset drum kits. So if you only what to use the factory drum kits and just do some minor tweaking of the voice, you can just change it here, and that is as far as you need to go. Just remember, if you change an assignment to a midi note here that has a asterick beside it, it will change the midi note/name for all the kits that use that midi note number. For the more adventure-some, multiple voices layered per pad: Start by going to the Trigger menu item [TrgMIDI1]. For each Input 1-16 (pads), 1R1-8R2 (rims), that you want to setup with more than one voice make sure that the second item on the menu is set to "Stack". Now go to the Trigger menu item [TrgMIDI2]. The first item is the trigger Input source 1-16 or rims. The second item is the Note number, 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, etc. For pads you can stack 6 notes or 9 alternate mode notes. For the Hihat you can stack 5 notes. For the rims you can stack 2 notes. The second knob scrolls down through the note 1st, 2nd, 3rd...6th, etc. This is similar to the layer number on the Dtxpress module, except you have more than 2 layers. The third item is the actual midi number/name (13C#-1) that you assign to each "Note" or "layer". So for example, if you set "Note 1st" to equal 13C#-1 and "Note 2nd" to equal 14D-1, you will have "Layer" 1 set to play "Percs1/SurdoM1" and "Layer" 2 set to play "Percs1/Surdo". And that's really all there is to it. In the Trigger menu you tell the module how many and what midi notes you want it to play for each trigger input 1-16 and rims. You then go to the Voice menu and assign the actual sounds to the midi notes that you are using. Example: Setting up the snare pad to have three layered voices. First check to see which midi number/names are not being used in the Voice menu. They are the ones that do not have a * beside the note number. In this case we are going to use the following three midi note numbers and assign them the following Type/Voices: [Voice1] TYPE VOICE 13C#-1 AcSnr1 St.Smith1 (this will be layer 1 voice) 14D-1 AcSnr1 St.Smith2 (this will be layer 2 voice) 15D#-1 AcSnr1 St.Snare (this will be layer 3 voice) Now go to the Trigger Menu [TrgMIDI2] For the first item select "Input=1", which is the snare pad. For the second item select "Note = 1st", which is the first layered note. For the third item select "Note# = 13C#-1" Now set the second item to "Note = 2nd", which is the second layered note and set the third item to "Note# = 14D-1" Now set the second item to "Note = 3rd", which is the third layered voice and set the third item to "Note# = 15D#-1". Then save it to a user kit and your done. You can now go through and adjust the volume and crossfading in a similar fashion to the Dtxpress module, except this is done in the Trigger menu instead of the Voice menu. Hope that helps you get started. OGD --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> wrote:
> > Cheers, and thanks OGD. I really do need a hand to decipher the > handbook instructions, which I must have skipped over several times. >
2004-11-03 by Nick Carroll
Thanks, OGD. I am much obliged. I'll spend some time following your instructions and see how I go. A pity there isn't a DTXtreme version of the DTXpressions site, then we could post them there for other first-time DTXT users. --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote: > > Nick, > > Here goes nothing, it should be clear as mud when I finish, as I am > still trying to figure out why they did it this way. > > When you go to the Voice menu, and you turn the first knob [Voice1] > counterclockwise until you see the lowest midi note number/name 13C#- > 1, the Type = Percs1; the Voice=SurdoM. > > As you scroll up through the midi note number/name list from 13C#- 1 > (which is note number 13 and midi note C#-1) up to note number/name > of 94A#5 (which is note number 94 and mide note A#5) that a different > instrument group and voice number is assigned to each mide note. > > There are a total of 82 assignable note numbers 13 through 94 (C#- 1 > to A#5) for this module. The note numbers 0-12 and 95-127 cannot be > used for pad voices, but only for mide control events [see page 42,3- > Note#, under Settings, *note number]. > > The module comes with these notes already preset so they can be used > with the factory preset drum kits. So if you only what to use the > factory drum kits and just do some minor tweaking of the voice, you > can just change it here, and that is as far as you need to go. Just > remember, if you change an assignment to a midi note here that has a > asterick beside it, it will change the midi note/name for all the > kits that use that midi note number. > > For the more adventure-some, multiple voices layered per pad: > > Start by going to the Trigger menu item [TrgMIDI1]. > > For each Input 1-16 (pads), 1R1-8R2 (rims), that you want to setup > with more than one voice make sure that the second item on the menu > is set to "Stack". > > Now go to the Trigger menu item [TrgMIDI2]. > > The first item is the trigger Input source 1-16 or rims. > > The second item is the Note number, 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, etc. > > For pads you can stack 6 notes or 9 alternate mode notes. > For the Hihat you can stack 5 notes. > For the rims you can stack 2 notes. > > The second knob scrolls down through the note 1st, 2nd, 3rd...6th, > etc. This is similar to the layer number on the Dtxpress module, > except you have more than 2 layers. > > The third item is the actual midi number/name (13C#-1) that you > assign to each "Note" or "layer". So for example, if you set "Note > 1st" to equal 13C#-1 and "Note 2nd" to equal 14D-1, you will > have "Layer" 1 set to play "Percs1/SurdoM1" and "Layer" 2 set to > play "Percs1/Surdo". > > And that's really all there is to it. In the Trigger menu you tell > the module how many and what midi notes you want it to play for each > trigger input 1-16 and rims. You then go to the Voice menu and assign > the actual sounds to the midi notes that you are using. > > Example: > > Setting up the snare pad to have three layered voices. > > First check to see which midi number/names are not being used in the > Voice menu. They are the ones that do not have a * beside the note > number. In this case we are going to use the following three midi > note numbers and assign them the following Type/Voices: > > [Voice1] TYPE VOICE > 13C#-1 AcSnr1 St.Smith1 (this will be layer 1 voice) > 14D-1 AcSnr1 St.Smith2 (this will be layer 2 voice) > 15D#-1 AcSnr1 St.Snare (this will be layer 3 voice) > > Now go to the Trigger Menu [TrgMIDI2] > > For the first item select "Input=1", which is the snare pad. > For the second item select "Note = 1st", which is the first layered > note. > For the third item select "Note# = 13C#-1" > > Now set the second item to "Note = 2nd", which is the second layered > note and set the third item to "Note# = 14D-1" > > Now set the second item to "Note = 3rd", which is the third layered > voice and set the third item to "Note# = 15D#-1". > > Then save it to a user kit and your done. You can now go through and > adjust the volume and crossfading in a similar fashion to the > Dtxpress module, except this is done in the Trigger menu instead of > the Voice menu. > > Hope that helps you get started. > > OGD > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> > wrote: > > > > Cheers, and thanks OGD. I really do need a hand to decipher the > > handbook instructions, which I must have skipped over several times. > >
2004-11-03 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com
Nick, I guess it could be posted at the Yahoogroups/Dtxtreme site or at Yamaha's site Dtxperience. OGD _____
From: Nick Carroll Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:29 AM To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Layering two voices Thanks, OGD. I am much obliged. I'll spend some time following your instructions and see how I go. A pity there isn't a DTXtreme version of the DTXpressions site, then we could post them there for other first-time DTXT users. ************************************************************************** The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information intended only for use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________