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2004-12-10 by Tom
I don't have an ekit yet but hope to get one soon. I have a Peavey 250 watt bass amp and two bass speaker cabinets, a Hartke 410 (4 10" speakers) and a Gallien Krugger 15". I was thinking the Peavey amp with the 410 might work pretty good as a drum monitor setup, at least for the drums although it might not reproduce the cymbal frequencies optimally. Anyone ever try a setup like that? I'll just be using this for home practice. TomBk
2004-12-10 by Ken Bracey
I'm using a Yorkville 50B bass amp (50 watts, 10 inch speaker) for my monitor. Although this amp is really not powerful enough for the Yamaha DTXpress III sp kit, I'll have to make do on my limited budget. This amp is good enough however for what I need and it's nice to play without headphones and to get the feel at the drums from the amp. The bass amp is loud enough to make the windows rattle if I want to but at that volume it sounds like crap and forget about getting any good sound from your cymbals... the bass amp isn't good enough to produce the frequencies required for the cymbals. Besides, the cymbal sounds from the DTXpress kit pretty well suck anyway (just my opinion!). My kick predal sounds great however and I can get decent snare and tom sounds from the amp...gound enough to practice with anyway. If I had a choice, I'd look for a good keyboard amp next time around. Ken
-----Original Message----- From: Tom [mailto:tombrook11232@...] Sent: December 9, 2004 9:44 PM To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DTXpress] Bass Amp, Bass Speakers: What do you think? I don't have an ekit yet but hope to get one soon. I have a Peavey 250 watt bass amp and two bass speaker cabinets, a Hartke 410 (4 10" speakers) and a Gallien Krugger 15". I was thinking the Peavey amp with the 410 might work pretty good as a drum monitor setup, at least for the drums although it might not reproduce the cymbal frequencies optimally. Anyone ever try a setup like that? I'll just be using this for home practice. TomBk Community email addresses: Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress Alternate DTXpress site: http://www.dtxpressions.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129beu5d3/M=324847.5707096.6763800.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705031972:HM/EXP=1102733105/A=2343726/R=0/SIG=12i5ktd16/*http://clk. atdmt.com/VON/go/yhxxxvon01900091von/direct/01/&time=1102646705444154> <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129beu5d3/M=324847.5707096.6763800.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705031972:HM/EXP=1102733105/A=2343726/R=1/SIG=12i5ktd16/*http://clk. atdmt.com/VON/go/yhxxxvon01900091von/direct/01/&time=1102646705444154> Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada <http://view.atdmt.com/VON/view/yhxxxvon01900091von/direct/01/&time=11026467 05444154> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=324847.5707096.6763800.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2343726/rand=986923983> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2004-12-10 by emf
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <tombrook11232@y...> wrote: > > I don't have an ekit yet but hope to get one soon. > > I have a Peavey 250 watt bass amp and two bass speaker cabinets, a > Hartke 410 (4 10" speakers) and a Gallien Krugger 15". I was > thinking the Peavey amp with the 410 might work pretty good as a > drum monitor setup, at least for the drums although it might not > reproduce the cymbal frequencies optimally. Anyone ever try a setup > like that? > > I'll just be using this for home practice. Tom, Some bass amps have extended frequency response. See if you can check the specs of your Peavey. If it doesn't go above upper bass or lower midrange, your e-kit won't be getting its due. Of course, none of this will mean a lick if the cabinets can't reproduce anything but bass frequencies. If you take the higher frequencies out, you'll lose a lot of the kit's life, even if you don't particularly care for the cymbal sounds. You'll also lose transients from the snare. Ed
2004-12-10 by Charles Baer
You could pick up an inexpensive crossover that would let you use what you have for the high-energy bass requirements and use/get a smaller (lower cost) setup for the higher freqs. Charlie emf wrote:
>--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <tombrook11232@y...> wrote: > > >>I don't have an ekit yet but hope to get one soon. >> >>I have a Peavey 250 watt bass amp and two bass speaker cabinets, a >>Hartke 410 (4 10" speakers) and a Gallien Krugger 15". I was >>thinking the Peavey amp with the 410 might work pretty good as a >>drum monitor setup, at least for the drums although it might not >>reproduce the cymbal frequencies optimally. Anyone ever try a >> >> >setup > > >>like that? >> >>I'll just be using this for home practice. >> >> > >Tom, > >Some bass amps have extended frequency response. See if you can check >the specs of your Peavey. If it doesn't go above upper bass or lower >midrange, your e-kit won't be getting its due. Of course, none of >this will mean a lick if the cabinets can't reproduce anything but >bass frequencies. If you take the higher frequencies out, you'll lose >a lot of the kit's life, even if you don't particularly care for the >cymbal sounds. You'll also lose transients from the snare. > >Ed >
2004-12-10 by S-E-A
You could alway add pizeo tweeters (horn, or bulliet design - choice is yours) to extend the top end providing there's room to fit them. You will need to add a resistor in series to the pizeo's BTW. Good thing about them; 1) Reasonably cheap 2) Normally 'idiot proof' (unless you get a new breed of idiot) The bass amp will handle the toms, and kicks with easy. the Sonic Energy Authority - a sound investment
2004-12-13 by Tom
> ---"Tom" wrote: I have a Peavey 250 watt bass amp and two bass speaker cabinets...What do you think? --- "emf" wrote: > Some bass amps have extended frequency response. See if you can check the specs of your Peavey. If it doesn't go above upper bass or lower midrange, your e-kit won't be getting its due. Of course, none of this will mean a lick if the cabinets can't reproduce anything but bass frequencies. ==================== Hi, The Peavey Amp I have is the Mark VI Series and is about 12 years old, although it has hardly any use on it. I didn't dig up the specs on it yet, but it has a built in equilizer with the top band centered on 10kHz. It also has a built in crossover adjustable between 200 and 2000 Hz and I do have a spare stereo amp laying around here. I'll have to look into the freq response of my GK410 Bass Guitar cabinet, although I don't expect to find it will be high enough for optimal sound. I also have a couple of EV PA type speaker cabs with a big horn and 15" drivers, but they're rediculously big for my living room where I want to set up the drums. Does anyone know the frequency range of cymbals including the overtones and harmonics etc? Cheers, TomBk
2004-12-13 by emf
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <tombrook11232@y...> wrote: > The Peavey Amp I have is the Mark VI Series and is about 12 years > old, although it has hardly any use on it. I didn't dig up the > specs on it yet, but it has a built in equilizer with the top band > centered on 10kHz. It also has a built in crossover adjustable > between 200 and 2000 Hz and I do have a spare stereo amp laying > around here. The amp definitely goes beyond bass range and approaches, if not actually reaches, cymbal frequencies. If it will drive at least one other small speaker of some kind and cross over to it in the upper bass or lower midrange, your current situation might be good enough to satisfy you. Your ears can decide. In the best scenario, you could mount a couple of satellites on the rack or on stands and treat the bass cabinet as your subwoofer, crossing over at a frequency that protects the sat(s) from overload. If you really want the cymbals to sing, however, you shouldn't tap out at much lower than around 16 kHz. If you're my age, you probably can't hear frequencies any higher than that point, anyway. If your current amp won't go that high, you might use a second one to drive sats that overlap your bass speaker at their bottom end, say, 100 kHz or so, thus avoiding a separate crossover altogether (though it's not always easy to integrate sats/subs without leaving a hole in the sound no matter what you do). A separate amp for bass and another for the rest of the frequency range (down to 100 Hz or so) would at least ensure that the sats don't get pushed beyond their limits if they're driven by the same amp as the bass w/o a crossover. Ed