Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a file because we'd 
almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact Chris Thackston, who 
founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have become the 
moderator through Chris, to deal with the situation, but both of 
their given addresses came up empty. They do not appear to be 
involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy policy prevents it 
from appointing a new moderator with the power to manage the files. 
Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete their own files 
after a certain period of time, (2) to set up another site somewhere 
to add more files as necessary, (3) to have someone start a new 
group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo or elsewhere. 

Vern Graner offered to host the group outside Yahoo some time ago. A 
few of us exchanged views about it; a search of the archives 
under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread. There are pros and 
cons; how strong they are should be a matter of consensus, or at 
least as democratic as possible. To his everlasting credit, Vern is 
already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly handled by Giles 
Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently constituted on 
Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will accumulate unless we 
periodically delete our own and recommend that others do so as well 
to make more room. Thoughts?

Ed:
Are 'Files' and their storage the only thing in question, or 
does 'Files' also include Messages, Photos, Links, Database, et al?

If Vern has the time and facilities to administer such a site, that 
would be excellent (and most gracious on his part).

This site is fine, but the messaging is a bit cumbersome. Maybe it's 
because I'm used to the type of forum found on the Drum Center of 
Indianapolis' board; very nice and well organized. If no one has ever 
visited, you should check it out. There's a wealth of great 
information and very friendly participants (much like this board). 
Their URL is www.drumcenterforum.com. It's drawback is that it 
doesn't have  picture/file upload capabilities.

Stephen

Stephen,

Good point. I assume that Photos, Links, et al. are under the same 
constraints as Files. If this group ultimately moves, I'd like to 
see some stab made beforehand to make sure that the 650 members know 
and will follow. I, for one, like the strength in numbers.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700" <brown8700@a...> wrote:
> Ed:
> Are 'Files' and their storage the only thing in question, or 
> does 'Files' also include Messages, Photos, Links, Database, et al?
> 
> If Vern has the time and facilities to administer such a site, 
that 
> would be excellent (and most gracious on his part).
> 
> This site is fine, but the messaging is a bit cumbersome. Maybe 
it's 
> because I'm used to the type of forum found on the Drum Center of 
> Indianapolis' board; very nice and well organized. If no one has 
ever 

> visited, you should check it out. There's a wealth of great 
> information and very friendly participants (much like this board). 
> Their URL is www.drumcenterforum.com. It's drawback is that it 
> doesn't have  picture/file upload capabilities.
> 
> Stephen

Maybe Vern could just host a file holding site??  This way we could 
keep the site where it is but continue to add optional photos and 
songs to an alternative site.  I think the more important files 
should stay here, such as manuals and people to contact and such.  
We could keep a text file named the web address to verns place in 
the files section so people would immediatly see where to go for 
more files.  Or maybe in big bold letters we could place it on the 
front page introducing the group...I don't know, help!

-UN.H


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a file because we'd 
> almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact Chris Thackston, 
who 
> founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have become the 
> moderator through Chris, to deal with the situation, but both of 
> their given addresses came up empty. They do not appear to be 
> involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy policy prevents 
it 
> from appointing a new moderator with the power to manage the 
files. 
> Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete their own files 
> after a certain period of time, (2) to set up another site 
somewhere 
> to add more files as necessary, (3) to have someone start a new 
> group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo or elsewhere. 
> 
> Vern Graner offered to host the group outside Yahoo some time ago. 
A 
> few of us exchanged views about it; a search of the archives 
> under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread. There are pros and 
> cons; how strong they are should be a matter of consensus, or at 
> least as democratic as possible. To his everlasting credit, Vern 
is 
> already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly handled by Giles 
> Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently constituted on 
> Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will accumulate unless we 
> periodically delete our own and recommend that others do so as 
well 
> to make more room. Thoughts?

Since most here have seen the photos of my phase III kit, and it is now
obsolete,( the final cymbal and TP65s just arrived today and I have to find
a good spot for the KORG D1200CD that I picked up last weekend),  I will
delete my photos later this afternoon. I don't have any other files, but
every little bit helps.

OldGuyDrummer

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> 
> UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a file because we'd 
> almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact Chris Thackston, who 
> founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have become the 
> moderator through Chris, to deal with the situation, but both of 
> their given addresses came up empty. They do not appear to be 
> involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy policy prevents it 
> from appointing a new moderator with the power to manage the files. 
> Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete their own files 
> after a certain period of time, (2) to set up another site somewhere 
> to add more files as necessary, (3) to have someone start a new 
> group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo or elsewhere. 
> 
> Vern Graner offered to host the group outside Yahoo some time ago. A 
> few of us exchanged views about it; a search of the archives 
> under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread. There are pros and 
> cons; how strong they are should be a matter of consensus, or at 
> least as democratic as possible. To his everlasting credit, Vern is 
> already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly handled by Giles 
> Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently constituted on 
> Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will accumulate unless we 
> periodically delete our own and recommend that others do so as well 
> to make more room. Thoughts?
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Hope we'll get to see phase IV soon.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Since most here have seen the photos of my phase III kit, and it 
is now
> obsolete,( the final cymbal and TP65s just arrived today and I 
have to find
> a good spot for the KORG D1200CD that I picked up last weekend),  
I will
> delete my photos later this afternoon. I don't have any other 
files, but
> every little bit helps.
> 
> OldGuyDrummer
> 
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> > From:	liberatusvirus [SMTP:liberatusvirus@y...]
> > Sent:	Friday, May 16, 2003 1:47 PM
> > To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[DTXpress] moderators, files, and sites
> > 
> > UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a file because 
we'd 
> > almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact Chris Thackston, 
who 
> > founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have become the 
> > moderator through Chris, to deal with the situation, but both of 
> > their given addresses came up empty. They do not appear to be 
> > involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy policy 
prevents it 
> > from appointing a new moderator with the power to manage the 
files. 
> > Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete their own files 
> > after a certain period of time, (2) to set up another site 
somewhere 
> > to add more files as necessary, (3) to have someone start a new 
> > group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo or elsewhere. 
> > 
> > Vern Graner offered to host the group outside Yahoo some time 
ago. A 
> > few of us exchanged views about it; a search of the archives 
> > under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread. There are pros 
and 
> > cons; how strong they are should be a matter of consensus, or at 
> > least as democratic as possible. To his everlasting credit, Vern 
is 
> > already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly handled by Giles 
> > Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently constituted on 
> > Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will accumulate unless we 
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hmmm weird to come into the forum and find my name in/on a bunch of
posts... :D Anyway...

I do still offer to host the site, the forum and/or whatever the group
wants to use. I have a phorum up already here:

http://www.dtxpressions.com/messages.htm

And I can customize it anyway the group wants. In fact the Drum Center
forum (mentioned as a good example of a forum earlier) seems to also be
running PHPBB so our site could look very simular.

Don't like the way it looks? Thats ok, casue PHPBB is "themeable" (like
WINAMP Skins) so we can use any of a bunch of very snazy looking themes
to make it look unique. Look here for details:

http://www.phpthemes.com

or this site that lets you preview the templates in real time:

http://www.phpbbhacks.com/templatesdemo/

Also, try this link to see another PHPBB site I host for players of the
MMPG Asherons Call:

http://www.holtsouth.com/phpbb2/

I would be happy to delegate the operation of the site to active members
or do it myself if the group doesn't have time. I have a desk jop
(netowkr support engineer) that allows me to work with the site a bit
each day if I need to. :)

As for the message board I'm using (PHPBB), though I think it's pretty
neat, thats not set in stone either. We could go to a WIKI format (see
another group I host at http://www.robotgroup.net to see if you like the
WIKI format better).I can pretty much run whatever forum you like as long
as it runs under LINUX. :)

For file uploads, I could make it possible for some of our members to
place files, but this is a bit tricky since the placing of the files to a
server is a security risk in most cases, so I'd have to see what options
we would have. I could set aside a limited amount of space and

Personally I would greatly prefer to have the group run through the
dtxpressions.com since I think it makes us look more professional and we
are not subject to Yahoo's rules and limits and we'd be much easier to
find! :)

Comments?

Vern

-- 
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Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG

underneathheaven said:

> Maybe Vern could just host a file holding site??  This way we could
> keep the site where it is but continue to add optional photos and
> songs to an alternative site.  I think the more important files
> should stay here, such as manuals and people to contact and such.
> We could keep a text file named the web address to verns place in
> the files section so people would immediatly see where to go for
> more files.  Or maybe in big bold letters we could place it on the
> front page introducing the group...I don't know, help!
>
> -UN.H
>
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
>> UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a file because we'd
>> almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact Chris Thackston,
> who
>> founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have become the
>> moderator through Chris, to deal with the situation, but both of
>> their given addresses came up empty. They do not appear to be
>> involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy policy prevents
> it
>> from appointing a new moderator with the power to manage the
> files.
>> Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete their own files
>> after a certain period of time, (2) to set up another site
> somewhere
>> to add more files as necessary, (3) to have someone start a new
>> group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo or elsewhere.
>>
>> Vern Graner offered to host the group outside Yahoo some time ago.
> A
>> few of us exchanged views about it; a search of the archives
>> under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread. There are pros and
>> cons; how strong they are should be a matter of consensus, or at
>> least as democratic as possible. To his everlasting credit, Vern
> is
>> already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly handled by Giles
>> Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently constituted on
>> Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will accumulate unless we
>> periodically delete our own and recommend that others do so as
> well
>> to make more room. Thoughts?
>
>
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Vern, 

Does PHPBB forum software support email posting/message delivery?

That would be the key for me -- it's why I like Yahoo groups. You get a
web based forum you can go to when you want, but can read/post/reply to
messages via email. I am a member of so many groups that filtered email
is the only way I can manage it. There's no way I could (or would want)
to surf through a web-based forum just to see all new messages. Plus, I
like being able to archive messages of my choosing on my local
computer. 

If email is an option, then I have no objections to moving away from 
Yahoo.

Matt 

On Fri, 16 May 2003 16:45:58 -0500 (CDT), Vernon Graner wrote:
>\ufffdAs for the message board I'm using (PHPBB), though I think it's 
>\ufffdpretty neat, thats not set in stone either. We could go to a WIKI 
>\ufffdformat (see another group I host at http://www.robotgroup.net to see 
>\ufffdif you like the WIKI format better).I can pretty much run whatever 
>\ufffdforum you like as long as it runs under LINUX. :) 
>\ufffd
>\ufffdFor file uploads, I could make it possible for some of our members to
>\ufffdplace files, but this is a bit tricky since the placing of the files 
>\ufffdto a server is a security risk in most cases, so I'd have to see what
>\ufffdoptions we would have. I could set aside a limited amount of space 
>\ufffdand 
>\ufffd
>\ufffdPersonally I would greatly prefer to have the group run through the 
>\ufffddtxpressions.com since I think it makes us look more professional and
>\ufffdwe are not subject to Yahoo's rules and limits and we'd be much 
>\ufffdeasier to find! :) 
>\ufffd
>\ufffdComments?

Vern....I LOVE the layout of the DTXpressions
forum....REAL TIME would be nice too.  What ever this
group decides as a whole I am for.
Thanks for offering your talents to us...perhaps we
should run a poll?
Jade
--- Vernon Graner <vern@...> wrote:
> hmmm weird to come into the forum and find my name
> in/on a bunch of
> posts... :D Anyway...
> 
> I do still offer to host the site, the forum and/or
> whatever the group
> wants to use. I have a phorum up already here:
> 
> http://www.dtxpressions.com/messages.htm
> 
> And I can customize it anyway the group wants. In
> fact the Drum Center
> forum (mentioned as a good example of a forum
> earlier) seems to also be
> running PHPBB so our site could look very simular.
> 
> Don't like the way it looks? Thats ok, casue PHPBB
> is "themeable" (like
> WINAMP Skins) so we can use any of a bunch of very
> snazy looking themes
> to make it look unique. Look here for details:
> 
> http://www.phpthemes.com
> 
> or this site that lets you preview the templates in
> real time:
> 
> http://www.phpbbhacks.com/templatesdemo/
> 
> Also, try this link to see another PHPBB site I host
> for players of the
> MMPG Asherons Call:
> 
> http://www.holtsouth.com/phpbb2/
> 
> I would be happy to delegate the operation of the
> site to active members
> or do it myself if the group doesn't have time. I
> have a desk jop
> (netowkr support engineer) that allows me to work
> with the site a bit
> each day if I need to. :)
> 
> As for the message board I'm using (PHPBB), though I
> think it's pretty
> neat, thats not set in stone either. We could go to
> a WIKI format (see
> another group I host at http://www.robotgroup.net to
> see if you like the
> WIKI format better).I can pretty much run whatever
> forum you like as long
> as it runs under LINUX. :)
> 
> For file uploads, I could make it possible for some
> of our members to
> place files, but this is a bit tricky since the
> placing of the files to a
> server is a security risk in most cases, so I'd have
> to see what options
> we would have. I could set aside a limited amount of
> space and
> 
> Personally I would greatly prefer to have the group
> run through the
> dtxpressions.com since I think it makes us look more
> professional and we
> are not subject to Yahoo's rules and limits and we'd
> be much easier to
> find! :)
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Vern
> 
> -- 
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is
> down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent
> so why are we
> Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course,
> if the network
> vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we
> obviously don't need
> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we
> paying you?" VLG
> 
> underneathheaven said:
> > Maybe Vern could just host a file holding site?? 
> This way we could
> > keep the site where it is but continue to add
> optional photos and
> > songs to an alternative site.  I think the more
> important files
> > should stay here, such as manuals and people to
> contact and such.
> > We could keep a text file named the web address to
> verns place in
> > the files section so people would immediatly see
> where to go for
> > more files.  Or maybe in big bold letters we could
> place it on the
> > front page introducing the group...I don't know,
> help!
> >
> > -UN.H
> >
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> >> UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a
> file because we'd
> >> almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact
> Chris Thackston,
> > who
> >> founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have
> become the
> >> moderator through Chris, to deal with the
> situation, but both of
> >> their given addresses came up empty. They do not
> appear to be
> >> involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy
> policy prevents
> > it
> >> from appointing a new moderator with the power to
> manage the
> > files.
> >> Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete
> their own files
> >> after a certain period of time, (2) to set up
> another site
> > somewhere
> >> to add more files as necessary, (3) to have
> someone start a new
> >> group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo
> or elsewhere.
> >>
> >> Vern Graner offered to host the group outside
> Yahoo some time ago.
> > A
> >> few of us exchanged views about it; a search of
> the archives
> >> under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread.
> There are pros and
> >> cons; how strong they are should be a matter of
> consensus, or at
> >> least as democratic as possible. To his
> everlasting credit, Vern
> > is
> >> already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly
> handled by Giles
> >> Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently
> constituted on
> >> Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will
> accumulate unless we
> >> periodically delete our own and recommend that
> others do so as
> > well
> >> to make more room. Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
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<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> Good point. I assume that Photos, Links, et al. are under the same 
> constraints as Files. If this group ultimately moves, I'd like to 
> see some stab made beforehand to make sure that the 650 members 
know 
> and will follow. I, for one, like the strength in numbers.
> 
> Ed

Ed:
You're absolutely correct. We wouldn't want anybody to 'miss the bus'.
We could always leave a trail of breadcrumbs behind; or better yet, a 
ton of messages with links to the new home

Vern:

YOU DA MAN!

Stephen

hey ,
     i just went through my photo album on here,and deleted off some 
older pics of my gear (removed about 14 pics) i didn't realize i had 
that many pics up in there maybe this will help to open up some more 
room for new files,and pics .. if everyone works together on this 
and stays responsible for removing there files after so long of a 
period of time i think that would help out for some of the newer 
members,and give them the opportunity to share in the fruits of all 
what is available on this group as well..

happy to do my part to add some more room to this site,

sam(otacon28)

 --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a file because we'd 
> almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact Chris Thackston, 
who 
> founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have become the 
> moderator through Chris, to deal with the situation, but both of 
> their given addresses came up empty. They do not appear to be 
> involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy policy prevents 
it 
> from appointing a new moderator with the power to manage the 
files. 
> Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete their own files 
> after a certain period of time, (2) to set up another site 
somewhere 
> to add more files as necessary, (3) to have someone start a new 
> group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo or elsewhere. 
> 
> Vern Graner offered to host the group outside Yahoo some time ago. 
A 
> few of us exchanged views about it; a search of the archives 
> under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread. There are pros and 
> cons; how strong they are should be a matter of consensus, or at 
> least as democratic as possible. To his everlasting credit, Vern 
is 
> already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly handled by Giles 
> Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently constituted on 
> Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will accumulate unless we 
> periodically delete our own and recommend that others do so as 
well 
> to make more room. Thoughts?

up for the poll idea. even if we don't decide to all move, some other 
kind of site where we can excahnge pictures would be a very good 
idea. i for one have found the pictures very helpful when discussing 
peoples kits and even more so now as i am currently considering all 
my options before upgrading.

pete



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Jade <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:

> Vern....I LOVE the layout of the DTXpressions
> forum....REAL TIME would be nice too.  What ever this
> group decides as a whole I am for.
> Thanks for offering your talents to us...perhaps we
> should run a poll?
> Jade
> --- Vernon Graner <vern@t...> wrote:
> > hmmm weird to come into the forum and find my name
> > in/on a bunch of
> > posts... :D Anyway...
> > 
> > I do still offer to host the site, the forum and/or
> > whatever the group
> > wants to use. I have a phorum up already here:
> > 
> > http://www.dtxpressions.com/messages.htm
> > 
> > And I can customize it anyway the group wants. In
> > fact the Drum Center
> > forum (mentioned as a good example of a forum
> > earlier) seems to also be
> > running PHPBB so our site could look very simular.
> > 
> > Don't like the way it looks? Thats ok, casue PHPBB
> > is "themeable" (like
> > WINAMP Skins) so we can use any of a bunch of very
> > snazy looking themes
> > to make it look unique. Look here for details:
> > 
> > http://www.phpthemes.com
> > 
> > or this site that lets you preview the templates in
> > real time:
> > 
> > http://www.phpbbhacks.com/templatesdemo/
> > 
> > Also, try this link to see another PHPBB site I host
> > for players of the
> > MMPG Asherons Call:
> > 
> > http://www.holtsouth.com/phpbb2/
> > 
> > I would be happy to delegate the operation of the
> > site to active members
> > or do it myself if the group doesn't have time. I
> > have a desk jop
> > (netowkr support engineer) that allows me to work
> > with the site a bit
> > each day if I need to. :)
> > 
> > As for the message board I'm using (PHPBB), though I
> > think it's pretty
> > neat, thats not set in stone either. We could go to
> > a WIKI format (see
> > another group I host at http://www.robotgroup.net to
> > see if you like the
> > WIKI format better).I can pretty much run whatever
> > forum you like as long
> > as it runs under LINUX. :)
> > 
> > For file uploads, I could make it possible for some
> > of our members to
> > place files, but this is a bit tricky since the
> > placing of the files to a
> > server is a security risk in most cases, so I'd have
> > to see what options
> > we would have. I could set aside a limited amount of
> > space and
> > 
> > Personally I would greatly prefer to have the group
> > run through the
> > dtxpressions.com since I think it makes us look more
> > professional and we
> > are not subject to Yahoo's rules and limits and we'd
> > be much easier to
> > find! :)
> > 
> > Comments?
> > 
> > Vern
> > 
> > -- 
> > Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is
> > down, then you're
> > Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent
> > so why are we
> > Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course,
> > if the network
> > vern@t... www.txis.com  | is up, then we
> > obviously don't need
> > Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we
> > paying you?" VLG
> > 
> > underneathheaven said:
> > > Maybe Vern could just host a file holding site?? 
> > This way we could
> > > keep the site where it is but continue to add
> > optional photos and
> > > songs to an alternative site.  I think the more
> > important files
> > > should stay here, such as manuals and people to
> > contact and such.
> > > We could keep a text file named the web address to
> > verns place in
> > > the files section so people would immediatly see
> > where to go for
> > > more files.  Or maybe in big bold letters we could
> > place it on the
> > > front page introducing the group...I don't know,
> > help!
> > >
> > > -UN.H
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > >> UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a
> > file because we'd
> > >> almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact
> > Chris Thackston,
> > > who
> > >> founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have
> > become the
> > >> moderator through Chris, to deal with the
> > situation, but both of
> > >> their given addresses came up empty. They do not
> > appear to be
> > >> involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy
> > policy prevents
> > > it
> > >> from appointing a new moderator with the power to
> > manage the
> > > files.
> > >> Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete
> > their own files
> > >> after a certain period of time, (2) to set up
> > another site
> > > somewhere
> > >> to add more files as necessary, (3) to have
> > someone start a new
> > >> group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo
> > or elsewhere.
> > >>
> > >> Vern Graner offered to host the group outside
> > Yahoo some time ago.
> > > A
> > >> few of us exchanged views about it; a search of
> > the archives
> > >> under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread.
> > There are pros and
> > >> cons; how strong they are should be a matter of
> > consensus, or at
> > >> least as democratic as possible. To his
> > everlasting credit, Vern
> > > is
> > >> already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly
> > handled by Giles
> > >> Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently
> > constituted on
> > >> Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will
> > accumulate unless we
> > >> periodically delete our own and recommend that
> > others do so as
> > > well
> > >> to make more room. Thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Community email addresses:
> > >   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
> > >   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
> > >   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> > >   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> > >
> > > Shortcut URL to this page:
> > >   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> __________________________________
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I deleted some old photos and files as well.  I think everyone 
should do a little summer cleaning with their stuff and maybe we 
gain some more space to work with!

-UN.H


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peterpan" <malakies2000@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> up for the poll idea. even if we don't decide to all move, some 
other 
> kind of site where we can excahnge pictures would be a very good 
> idea. i for one have found the pictures very helpful when 
discussing 
> peoples kits and even more so now as i am currently considering 
all 

> my options before upgrading.
> 
> pete
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Jade <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > Vern....I LOVE the layout of the DTXpressions
> > forum....REAL TIME would be nice too.  What ever this
> > group decides as a whole I am for.
> > Thanks for offering your talents to us...perhaps we
> > should run a poll?
> > Jade
> > --- Vernon Graner <vern@t...> wrote:
> > > hmmm weird to come into the forum and find my name
> > > in/on a bunch of
> > > posts... :D Anyway...
> > > 
> > > I do still offer to host the site, the forum and/or
> > > whatever the group
> > > wants to use. I have a phorum up already here:
> > > 
> > > http://www.dtxpressions.com/messages.htm
> > > 
> > > And I can customize it anyway the group wants. In
> > > fact the Drum Center
> > > forum (mentioned as a good example of a forum
> > > earlier) seems to also be
> > > running PHPBB so our site could look very simular.
> > > 
> > > Don't like the way it looks? Thats ok, casue PHPBB
> > > is "themeable" (like
> > > WINAMP Skins) so we can use any of a bunch of very
> > > snazy looking themes
> > > to make it look unique. Look here for details:
> > > 
> > > http://www.phpthemes.com
> > > 
> > > or this site that lets you preview the templates in
> > > real time:
> > > 
> > > http://www.phpbbhacks.com/templatesdemo/
> > > 
> > > Also, try this link to see another PHPBB site I host
> > > for players of the
> > > MMPG Asherons Call:
> > > 
> > > http://www.holtsouth.com/phpbb2/
> > > 
> > > I would be happy to delegate the operation of the
> > > site to active members
> > > or do it myself if the group doesn't have time. I
> > > have a desk jop
> > > (netowkr support engineer) that allows me to work
> > > with the site a bit
> > > each day if I need to. :)
> > > 
> > > As for the message board I'm using (PHPBB), though I
> > > think it's pretty
> > > neat, thats not set in stone either. We could go to
> > > a WIKI format (see
> > > another group I host at http://www.robotgroup.net to
> > > see if you like the
> > > WIKI format better).I can pretty much run whatever
> > > forum you like as long
> > > as it runs under LINUX. :)
> > > 
> > > For file uploads, I could make it possible for some
> > > of our members to
> > > place files, but this is a bit tricky since the
> > > placing of the files to a
> > > server is a security risk in most cases, so I'd have
> > > to see what options
> > > we would have. I could set aside a limited amount of
> > > space and
> > > 
> > > Personally I would greatly prefer to have the group
> > > run through the
> > > dtxpressions.com since I think it makes us look more
> > > professional and we
> > > are not subject to Yahoo's rules and limits and we'd
> > > be much easier to
> > > find! :)
> > > 
> > > Comments?
> > > 
> > > Vern
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is
> > > down, then you're
> > > Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent
> > > so why are we
> > > Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course,
> > > if the network
> > > vern@t... www.txis.com  | is up, then we
> > > obviously don't need
> > > Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we
> > > paying you?" VLG
> > > 
> > > underneathheaven said:
> > > > Maybe Vern could just host a file holding site?? 
> > > This way we could
> > > > keep the site where it is but continue to add
> > > optional photos and
> > > > songs to an alternative site.  I think the more
> > > important files
> > > > should stay here, such as manuals and people to
> > > contact and such.
> > > > We could keep a text file named the web address to
> > > verns place in
> > > > the files section so people would immediatly see
> > > where to go for
> > > > more files.  Or maybe in big bold letters we could
> > > place it on the
> > > > front page introducing the group...I don't know,
> > > help!
> > > >
> > > > -UN.H
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > >> UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a
> > > file because we'd
> > > >> almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact
> > > Chris Thackston,
> > > > who
> > > >> founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have
> > > become the
> > > >> moderator through Chris, to deal with the
> > > situation, but both of
> > > >> their given addresses came up empty. They do not
> > > appear to be
> > > >> involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy
> > > policy prevents
> > > > it
> > > >> from appointing a new moderator with the power to
> > > manage the
> > > > files.
> > > >> Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete
> > > their own files
> > > >> after a certain period of time, (2) to set up
> > > another site
> > > > somewhere
> > > >> to add more files as necessary, (3) to have
> > > someone start a new
> > > >> group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo
> > > or elsewhere.
> > > >>
> > > >> Vern Graner offered to host the group outside
> > > Yahoo some time ago.
> > > > A
> > > >> few of us exchanged views about it; a search of
> > > the archives
> > > >> under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread.
> > > There are pros and
> > > >> cons; how strong they are should be a matter of
> > > consensus, or at
> > > >> least as democratic as possible. To his
> > > everlasting credit, Vern
> > > > is
> > > >> already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly
> > > handled by Giles
> > > >> Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently
> > > constituted on
> > > >> Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will
> > > accumulate unless we
> > > >> periodically delete our own and recommend that
> > > others do so as
> > > > well
> > > >> to make more room. Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Community email addresses:
> > > >   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
> > > >   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
> > > >   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> > > >   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> > > >
> > > > Shortcut URL to this page:
> > > >   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> > http://search.yahoo.com

Just my $0.02 worth but...

Seems to me we're moving in the *wrong* direction by encouraging people
to remove pictures from the online gallery. I would think the more
pictures we have, the more useful these photo libraries would be to new
and existing users. I know that I've found the photo libraries helpful
for  ideas on how to setup my kit on stage, how to arrange the pads, etc.

I think purging these old files runs contrary to the value of the library
and the group as a whole. It just feels like the wrong direction.
Shouldn't we be *adding* resourses, not removing them to fit some
arbitrary limit imposed by some "Yahoo"? (pun intended!) :)

Vern

-- 
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG



otacon28us said:

> hey ,
>      i just went through my photo album on here,and deleted off some
> older pics of my gear (removed about 14 pics) i didn't realize i had
> that many pics up in there maybe this will help to open up some more
> room for new files,and pics .. if everyone works together on this  and
> stays responsible for removing there files after so long of a  period
> of time i think that would help out for some of the newer
> members,and give them the opportunity to share in the fruits of all
> what is available on this group as well..
>
> happy to do my part to add some more room to this site,
>
> sam(otacon28)
>
>  --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
>> UHH reported a while ago that he couldn't add a file because we'd
>> almost reached our limit. I've tried to contact Chris Thackston,
> who
>> founded this group, and Rolf Baehr, who must have become the
>> moderator through Chris, to deal with the situation, but both of
>> their given addresses came up empty. They do not appear to be
>> involved anymore. Yahoo tells me that its privacy policy prevents
> it
>> from appointing a new moderator with the power to manage the
> files.
>> Our options are (1) to ask individuals to delete their own files
>> after a certain period of time, (2) to set up another site
> somewhere
>> to add more files as necessary, (3) to have someone start a new
>> group altogether, with new moderators, on Yahoo or elsewhere.
>>
>> Vern Graner offered to host the group outside Yahoo some time ago.
> A
>> few of us exchanged views about it; a search of the archives
>> under "Yahoo" will probably locate the thread. There are pros and
>> cons; how strong they are should be a matter of consensus, or at
>> least as democratic as possible. To his everlasting credit, Vern
> is
>> already hosting the DTXpressions site formerly handled by Giles
>> Hearn. We could certainly keep going as currently constituted on
>> Yahoo; the only drawback is that files will accumulate unless we
>> periodically delete our own and recommend that others do so as
> well
>> to make more room. Thoughts?
>
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--- "Vernon Graner" wrote:
> Seems to me we're moving in the *wrong* direction by
> encouraging people to remove pictures from the online
> gallery.

As a new kid on the block, I tend to agree... with a longer term 
view, that is. If the removal of images is a short-term measure to 
get some space for now while the group figures out the correct forum 
for moving on, I think that it's acceptable.

I do agree that the pictures are useful. Everything from setup 
ideas, to a little online jealousy!

Stewart