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Re: [DTXpress] Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

Re: [DTXpress] Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-06 by Stephanie

> I do think the 65's (both tom and cymbal pads) are more "even" and
> predictable in their sensitivity than the 80's.

Hey Stewart:

If what you say is true about the model designations, then I might also add 
that the rubber material in the TP65 series is of better quality than the 
previous generation as well.

Funny thing is, after 4 months of playing on them 20 hours a week or more, 
they still look like new after wiping them down with a slightly-water-damp 
soft rag.

Stephanie

'80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-06 by prog_uk

Apologies if this has already been answered a thousand times before.

I'm trying to ascertain the difference(s) between the range of pads 
TP80, PCY80 etc. and the range TP65, PCY65 etc.

All I can find so far is that the 65 range is a bit cheaper.  I'm 
sure the very knowledgable folks here will know a lot more than that.

Thanks in advance.

Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?

2003-07-06 by Stephanie

Hi Guys:

A question for those of you in Texas.  Are electronic drum kits frowned up on 
for live performances?  Even though it's all you got and there's only sheets 
of paper separating you from your neighbors in apartments?

Thanks!
Stephanie

Re: [DTXpress] '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-06 by Stephanie

Hey, uh Vern:

How did you manage to hang onto your job in tech?  I lost three jobs since 
2000 and quit the field 2 months ago.
************************
Senior Systems Engineer
Texas Information Services
************************

Stephanie

Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-06 by moosetication

--- "prog_uk" wrote:
> I'm trying to ascertain the difference(s) between
> the range of pads TP80, PCY80 etc. and the range
> TP65, PCY65 etc.

Well, the "80's" are older pads. I think they first came out with 
the DTX kits. The "65's" came out with the DTXpressII. There is also 
the range from the very first DTXpress incarnation, which 
are "60's" - though only in mono, I think (there was no TP60S, only 
the TP60).

As for differences... well not that much functionally, frankly. The 
TP65S snare pad is a "three zone" pad (actually a very clever stereo 
pad) which has one main piezo and two rim switches, that allows you 
do have (say) a snare sound, a rimshot sound, and a sidestick sound. 
The PCY65 cymbal pads are, I think, nicer than the PCY80s. They have 
a simulated "hammer" finish, and the rim on the stereo pad is not 
raised like it is on the 80S which makes it a bit easier to strike.

I do think the 65's (both tom and cymbal pads) are more "even" and 
predictable in their sensitivity than the 80's.

Stewart

No more tech

2003-07-06 by Stephanie

>  Yeah, I'm working for a software company here in town
>  (http://www.softwaremetering.com). I was let go in the second round of
>  layoffs at Dell, but I found a gig fairly soon after. What did u go into
>  and what did you diverge from? :)

Well, you lucked out totally.  I know plenty of veterans in the field who 
never went back, because their extended unemployment ran out centuries ago.

I was last laid off April 30, two months ago.  I decided to leave behind the 
computer field.  I was doing PC tech/network administration/Linux system 
administration.  I was only three years into the field.

I'm making my way back into music.  I know I'll have to have a day job some 
where to help keep some bills paid and improve my drum hardware.  So far, no 
part-time job (p/t work is what I'm lookinng for now).  I don't know that 
I'll ever go professional (would be nice, but I have a habit of turning 
entire professions into stone), but at least, I have fun playing and being my 
best.

Stephanie

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?

2003-07-06 by Stephanie

>  Hey Steph, I'm in south texas, 

Uhh, do I know you UN.H?

My last name's Ellison, Carrizo Springs class of 1985 (if you've seen the 
senior pictures, I'm the only Ellison listed, and yes, my name's Stephanie).  
Ring a bell?

> And who knows that the audience will think?  They're not all experts
> on music anyways, they just wanna be entertained and the xpress is
> quite capable of doing just that.  Play for the music.  I say try it
> and then tell us how it goes. :) I know some other members have
> played live with it recently and, even though they may not be from
> texas, maybe they can share some insight on their gigs.

That's something I'll try...  Anybody else (anywhere) with experience on this?  

I am upgrading this drum kit with mesh head pads.  Right now, I have a 13" 
mesh pad which I'll use for a snare.  I just need to get a snare stand for it 
and swing the 3-zone pad outward, so it'll be my auxillary snare for the rim 
stuff.  Eventually, I'll replace the tom pads with 10" mesh pads (which I 
will make).  I'll end up keeping one extra pad for effects (then I'll be out 
of inputs (THIS is plenty for me, really)).  I'll have spare pads for when 
one wears out.

Stephanie

Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-06 by prog_uk

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:

<snip>

> The PCY65 cymbal pads are, I think, nicer than the PCY80s. They 
have 
> a simulated "hammer" finish, and the rim on the stereo pad is not 
> raised like it is on the 80S which makes it a bit easier to strike.

<snip>

Many thanks for the in depth response.  The info above was especially 
useful as I plan to add a couple of dual zone cymbal pads.  One as an 
extra crash (or rather two in one) and the other to use for the hi-
hat pad leaving a TP65 for use as a fourth tom.

Actually, that sounds a lot like your 'Phase I' minus the Pintech.  
Any further advice on using a TP65S for the hi-hat?

Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-06 by moosetication

--- "prog_uk" wrote:
> Any further advice on using a TP65S for
> the hi-hat?

Do it. Much, much nicer than a pad. The edge works really quite 
acceptably. The only wrinkles I found when adding cymbals were:

* Mounting the hi-hat. I thought long and hard about this one. Being 
under budgetary constraints, an X-hat was out of the question. In 
the end I got an ex-demo Gibraltar multiclamp for £10, and a new DW 
cymbal stacker for about the same, and clamped the latter in the 
former. I'll take a detailed photo if you're interested. I could 
have economized futher by just clamping a long 8mm bolt into the 
multiclamp. You may be able to find something in the spares bin at 
your local drum shop.

* Stabilizers. Yamaha charge an *unbelievable* price for those 
simple l-shaped stabilizer things ... about £14 as spare parts. 
Outrageous. I haven't figured out that one yet. It's not an issue 
for the hat, as it's clamped tight, but it is for the extra crash. 
There are photos in the group from (I think) hairytrigger who made 
one out of a bolt coupler.

* Availability. I punted for TP80s off eBay as I was quoted 8 weeks 
lead time for almost all DTXpress components new. Buying them in the 
US is tricky, as in theory they shouldn't post new Yamaha gear 
overseas (check out Drumbalaya).

Stewart

Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-06 by prog_uk

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- "prog_uk" wrote:
> > Any further advice on using a TP65S for
> > the hi-hat?
> 
> Do it. Much, much nicer than a pad. The edge works really quite 
> acceptably. 

Just what I wanted to hear.  It's the lack of an edge sound in the 
current setup that's annoying me as I feel it's needed to add realism 
to the hi-hat.

> The only wrinkles I found when adding cymbals were:
> 
> * Mounting the hi-hat. I thought long and hard about this one. 
Being 
> under budgetary constraints, an X-hat was out of the question. In 
> the end I got an ex-demo Gibraltar multiclamp for £10, and a new DW 
> cymbal stacker for about the same, and clamped the latter in the 
> former. I'll take a detailed photo if you're interested.

A photo would be great if it's not a problem.

> I could 
> have economized futher by just clamping a long 8mm bolt into the 
> multiclamp. You may be able to find something in the spares bin at 
> your local drum shop.

I'll have a word with the guys at Nottingham Drum Centre (quick plug 
for my local drum shop!)

> * Stabilizers. Yamaha charge an *unbelievable* price for those 
> simple l-shaped stabilizer things ... about £14 as spare parts. 
> Outrageous. I haven't figured out that one yet. It's not an issue 
> for the hat, as it's clamped tight, but it is for the extra crash. 
> There are photos in the group from (I think) hairytrigger who made 
> one out of a bolt coupler.

Interesting.  I'd assumed that the stabiliser thing (what is the 
correct name I wonder?) would come with the pad.  £14 is indeed an 
outrageous price so I'll definitely look into the bolt coupler idea.

> * Availability. I punted for TP80s off eBay as I was quoted 8 weeks 
> lead time for almost all DTXpress components new. Buying them in 
the 
> US is tricky, as in theory they shouldn't post new Yamaha gear 
> overseas (check out Drumbalaya).

I'm in the UK so the US thing doesn't come into it for me which 
sounds like a good thing in this case.  If only we were having better 
weather :-)

Re: [DTXpress] '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-06 by Vernon Graner

prog_uk said:
> Apologies if this has already been answered a thousand times before.
>
> I'm trying to ascertain the difference(s) between the range of pads

No problem, let me explain. Back in '65, pads were mostly for crashing
and for "making it". They all had pretty much the same decor; lava lamps,
love beads and various black light posters. There was usually TAB in the
fridge and most of the food would be gone cause just about everyone had
the munchies for some reason. Oh, and every third word was "man", "heavy"
or "groovy"...

Now, in the 80's pads were pretty much full of hair spray and curling
irons (remember hair bands?) so you could stay there if you didn't mind
the fumes. The decor would consist of posters of Def Leppard and the
occasional  A-Team or Dukes of Hazard bedspread. The fridge would have
Diet Coke and surprising amounts of food, but people seemed to be much
more paranoid and were always rubbing their noses and sniffling... Of
course, by now the language had like advanced so like about every other
word was like "like" with the occasional "you know" like thrown in, ya
know?. :)

:)

> Thanks in advance.

No problem, I live to help. :D

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Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG

Re: Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?

2003-07-07 by underneathheaven

Hey Steph, I'm in south texas, and I know that when I first got my e-
drums my friends, who are in a band, thought that if I played with 
them we would sound like some new wave band from the 80s, or some 
current electronic rock group such as Orgy.  This opinion of theirs 
came from a naive knowledge of electronic drums and how far they 
have come.  Once I played the electronic set for them they were way 
more impressed and were excited to hear the sounds coming from a 
p.a.  Now I have never played live with the xpress, but I do think 
its an attention grabber and will definatly surprise people who hear 
it.  It never fails to surprise those who have doubts about it.  And 
once they see all the features and stuff it has, they'll enjoy it.  
And who knows that the audience will think?  They're not all experts 
on music anyways, they just wanna be entertained and the xpress is 
quite capable of doing just that.  Play for the music.  I say try it 
and then tell us how it goes. :) I know some other members have 
played live with it recently and, even though they may not be from 
texas, maybe they can share some insight on their gigs.

-UN.H 


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie <sellison-unix@a...> 
wrote:
> Hi Guys:
> 
> A question for those of you in Texas.  Are electronic drum kits 
frowned up on 
> for live performances?  Even though it's all you got and there's 
only sheets 
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> of paper separating you from your neighbors in apartments?
> 
> Thanks!
> Stephanie

Re: [DTXpress] '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-07 by Vernon Graner

Yeah, I'm working for a software company here in town
(http://www.softwaremetering.com). I was let go in the second round of
layoffs at Dell, but I found a gig fairly soon after. What did u go into
and what did you diverge from? :)

Vern

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Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG



Stephanie said:
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> Hey, uh Vern:
>
> How did you manage to hang onto your job in tech?  I lost three jobs
> since  2000 and quit the field 2 months ago.
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> Texas Information Services
> ************************
>
> Stephanie
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Re: [DTXpress] Tech Industry Woes..

2003-07-07 by Vernon Graner

hmm sorry to interrupt all the rest of you.. I s'pose this should go
off-list :)
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Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG



Vernon Graner said:
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> Yeah, I'm working for a software company here in town
> (http://www.softwaremetering.com). I was let go in the second round of
> layoffs at Dell, but I found a gig fairly soon after. What did u go
> into and what did you diverge from? :)
>
> Vern
>
> --
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course, if the network
> vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
>
>
>
> Stephanie said:
>> Hey, uh Vern:
>>
>> How did you manage to hang onto your job in tech?  I lost three jobs
>> since  2000 and quit the field 2 months ago.
>> ************************
>> Senior Systems Engineer
>> Texas Information Services
>> ************************
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
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RE: [DTXpress] Re: Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?

2003-07-07 by Spencer Hopkinson

Hi,

I've gigged with my DTX a couple of times. When I first started rehearsing
with it my band mates had the same opinion on electronic kits...thinking
they were still stuck in the 80's! They did laugh when I started hitting
random "FUNKY!!" samples into the middle of our songs!! (not for long
though!)

Going back to playing live...I didn't really enjoy the whole
experience...had difficulty hearing myself properly. We tried lots of
different ways..the best method we found was sending my output to the PA and
also sending it to a separate mixing desk with a powered monitor so I could
set my own volume. It does look great on stage though and generates a lot of
interest in the crowd.

Never really tried with headphones...that may be the key...and somehow
mixing everyone else into the AUX IN on the brain??

Nowadays I just use my trusty Maple Custom absolute with the DTXPress brain
and some DT20 triggers on bass and snare and some pads for samples and
loops.
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From: underneathheaven [mailto:realvast@...]
Sent: 07 July 2003 02:09
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?


Hey Steph, I'm in south texas, and I know that when I first got my e-
drums my friends, who are in a band, thought that if I played with 
them we would sound like some new wave band from the 80s, or some 
current electronic rock group such as Orgy.  This opinion of theirs 
came from a naive knowledge of electronic drums and how far they 
have come.  Once I played the electronic set for them they were way 
more impressed and were excited to hear the sounds coming from a 
p.a.  Now I have never played live with the xpress, but I do think 
its an attention grabber and will definatly surprise people who hear 
it.  It never fails to surprise those who have doubts about it.  And 
once they see all the features and stuff it has, they'll enjoy it.  
And who knows that the audience will think?  They're not all experts 
on music anyways, they just wanna be entertained and the xpress is 
quite capable of doing just that.  Play for the music.  I say try it 
and then tell us how it goes. :) I know some other members have 
played live with it recently and, even though they may not be from 
texas, maybe they can share some insight on their gigs.

-UN.H 


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie <sellison-unix@a...> 
wrote:
> Hi Guys:
> 
> A question for those of you in Texas.  Are electronic drum kits 
frowned up on 
> for live performances?  Even though it's all you got and there's 
only sheets 
> of paper separating you from your neighbors in apartments?
> 
> Thanks!
> Stephanie



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Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-07 by moosetication

--- "prog_uk" wrote:
> A photo would be great if it's not a problem.

Will do sometime this week. Not tonight, as I am out.

> I'd assumed that the stabiliser thing (what is the 
> correct name I wonder?) would come with the pad.

I think it's called a "stabilizer" (!) and they do come with new 
pads. As mine are used, I didn't get them.

> I'm in the UK so the US thing doesn't come into it...

No, I mean buying from the US to deliver in the UK (which is where I 
am too). In Drumbalaya's policy section, it says "New Roland and 
Yamaha products cannot be shipped outside the US; this includes 
APO/FPO addresses."

Stewart

Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-07 by oldguydrummer

> I think it's called a "stabilizer" (!) and they do come with new 
> pads. As mine are used, I didn't get them.
 Actually, only the PCY65S AND PCY80S come from the factory with the 
L-stablizer. The PCY65 does not come with it. Drumbalaya used to have 
a picture of it on their website. But the last time I looked, I 
couldn't find it. I think it was $17US.

OldGuyDrummer

Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-07 by prog_uk

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- "prog_uk" wrote:
> > A photo would be great if it's not a problem.
> 
> Will do sometime this week. Not tonight, as I am out.

Actually, I've tracked down a pic of the DW stacker so I now see what 
you mean.  It looks like a very tidy solution.

> > I'd assumed that the stabiliser thing (what is the 
> > correct name I wonder?) would come with the pad.
> 
> I think it's called a "stabilizer" (!) and they do come with new 
> pads. As mine are used, I didn't get them.

Good news if I can get the pads I want.

> > I'm in the UK so the US thing doesn't come into it...
> 
> No, I mean buying from the US to deliver in the UK (which is where 
I 
> am too). In Drumbalaya's policy section, it says "New Roland and 
> Yamaha products cannot be shipped outside the US; this includes 
> APO/FPO addresses."

Ah, I get you.  It was late when I read your message and I think my 
brain had already gone to sleep.

I'll be trying my local drum shop first and if they can't get 
anything soon enough I'll try Thomann in Germany 
(http://www.thomann.de).  They have the PCY65S listed at £48.98 but 
there's no indication of stock level and the fixed delivery price of 
£12 is a bit steep for one or two items.

In fact, it may only be one PCY65S at this stage as I'm tempted to 
wait and see if the PCY150 appears in the near future.

Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-07 by prog_uk

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- "prog_uk" wrote:
> > I'd assumed that the stabiliser thing (what is the 
> > correct name I wonder?) would come with the pad.
> 
> I think it's called a "stabilizer" (!) and they do come with new 
> pads. As mine are used, I didn't get them.

Just looked at the instructions that came with the pads and Yamaha 
are calling it a "stopper".  I think I prefer stabilizer so I vote we 
go with that :-)

Re: '80' pads vs '65' pads

2003-07-07 by prog_uk

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote:
> 
> > I think it's called a "stabilizer" (!) and they do come with new 
> > pads. As mine are used, I didn't get them.
>  Actually, only the PCY65S AND PCY80S come from the factory with 
the 
> L-stablizer. The PCY65 does not come with it.

That would account for the large difference in price between PCY65S 
and PCY65 when I looked.  Seems a bit of a strange policy though as 
it's surely necessary for both.

Re: Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?

2003-07-08 by underneathheaven

Hey Steph, I live in Corpus Christi!  I don't believe I know you 
because I'm from the class of 2000, hehe. :)  Where are you from 
exactly?  

Another thing I wanted to mention about playing live with other 
insturments connected to the p.a., was that some members have 
complained about double triggers and cross talk occuring more 
frequently when sharing a p.a. (or something along those lines.)  I 
hope these other members can share some helpful information!

-UN.H




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie <sellison-unix@a...> 
wrote:
> >  Hey Steph, I'm in south texas, 
> 
> Uhh, do I know you UN.H?
> 
> My last name's Ellison, Carrizo Springs class of 1985 (if you've 
seen the 
> senior pictures, I'm the only Ellison listed, and yes, my name's 
Stephanie).  
> Ring a bell?
> 
> > And who knows that the audience will think?  They're not all 
experts
> > on music anyways, they just wanna be entertained and the xpress 
is
> > quite capable of doing just that.  Play for the music.  I say 
try it
> > and then tell us how it goes. :) I know some other members have
> > played live with it recently and, even though they may not be 
from
> > texas, maybe they can share some insight on their gigs.
> 
> That's something I'll try...  Anybody else (anywhere) with 
experience on this?  
> 
> I am upgrading this drum kit with mesh head pads.  Right now, I 
have a 13" 
> mesh pad which I'll use for a snare.  I just need to get a snare 
stand for it 
> and swing the 3-zone pad outward, so it'll be my auxillary snare 
for the rim 
> stuff.  Eventually, I'll replace the tom pads with 10" mesh pads 
(which I 
> will make).  I'll end up keeping one extra pad for effects (then 
I'll be out 
> of inputs (THIS is plenty for me, really)).  I'll have spare pads 
for when 
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> one wears out.
> 
> Stephanie

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?

2003-07-08 by Stephanie

On Tue July 8 2003 1:20 am, underneathheaven wrote:
>  Hey Steph, I live in Corpus Christi!  I don't believe I know you
> because I'm from the class of 2000, hehe. :)  Where are you from
> exactly? 

I was born in Corpus, raised in Odem, Corpus again, and elsewhere.  We lived 
on the corner of Cook street and that main road going through to Corpus.

Stephanie

Re: Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?

2003-07-08 by Steve Parker

Hi Steph,
I don't live in Texas, I live in Boston, but I have some experience you
might be interested in.  I have a DTXpress I kit with a lot of extra pads
added on.  I have a photo of my set under Pinachee in the photo section.  I
have been using my set live, through Yamaha PA and speakers.  My band is
"Back Again" and you can listen to recordings of us which include my
electronic set at www.rockisbackagain.com.  Many of the band members were
skeptical about the electronic drums at first, but they were soon won over
because the sound was so realistic and they no longer had the drummer
crashing cymbals in their ears, aside from the fact that balancing the drums
with the rest of the band was so much easier than with a miked acoustic set.
The added value of being able to quickly switch your set to add a cow bell,
wood block or other percussion instruments has the other band members
realizing how cool these drums really are.  I originally had a little
problem playing the cymbals without having them choke up, but that was more
of a learning curve thing for me than anything else.  The people in the
audience look at me in amazement.  Many of them wondering what
the hell I'm playing because they are not used to seeing electronic sets in
a rock band.  I also had a sign with the bands name made up that I Velcro in
front of the rack to give the set more of a mass look so it doesn't look
like I'm playing the kitchen pots and pans.  You can see some pics on our
web site.  So I don't know how those southern Texans will react to
electronic drums, but us Bostonian pilgrims don't seem to mind too much.

Steve (pinachee)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephanie" <sellison-unix@...>
To: <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Electronic kits a no-no in live playing?


> >  Hey Steph, I'm in south texas,
>
> Uhh, do I know you UN.H?
>
> My last name's Ellison, Carrizo Springs class of 1985 (if you've seen the
> senior pictures, I'm the only Ellison listed, and yes, my name's
Stephanie).
> Ring a bell?
>
> > And who knows that the audience will think?  They're not all experts
> > on music anyways, they just wanna be entertained and the xpress is
> > quite capable of doing just that.  Play for the music.  I say try it
> > and then tell us how it goes. :) I know some other members have
> > played live with it recently and, even though they may not be from
> > texas, maybe they can share some insight on their gigs.
>
> That's something I'll try...  Anybody else (anywhere) with experience on
this?
>
> I am upgrading this drum kit with mesh head pads.  Right now, I have a 13"
> mesh pad which I'll use for a snare.  I just need to get a snare stand for
it
> and swing the 3-zone pad outward, so it'll be my auxillary snare for the
rim
> stuff.  Eventually, I'll replace the tom pads with 10" mesh pads (which I
> will make).  I'll end up keeping one extra pad for effects (then I'll be
out
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> of inputs (THIS is plenty for me, really)).  I'll have spare pads for when
> one wears out.
>
> Stephanie
>
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