Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I was setting up a set with my ride cymbal (pcy65 plugged into 9/10) 
set as a closed HH so I could play dbl bass and ride the HH at the 
same time.  I guess since I am using a stereo cable, I am able to 
trigger the 10 input as well as the 9.  I had to set them both 
because I have no control over when the 10 is going to trigger.  
I thought I'd mention that oddity because it reminded me of a thread 
I read about resistors in the traces. (diff between a pcy65 & pcy80?)

p.s. Are most of you living in the UK?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
wrote:
> I was setting up a set with my ride cymbal (pcy65 plugged into 
9/10) 
> set as a closed HH so I could play dbl bass and ride the HH at the 
> same time.  I guess since I am using a stereo cable, I am able to 
> trigger the 10 input as well as the 9.  I had to set them both 
> because I have no control over when the 10 is going to trigger.  
> I thought I'd mention that oddity because it reminded me of a 
thread 
> I read about resistors in the traces. (diff between a pcy65 & 
pcy80?)

Gordon,

Could you explain what you mean a little more? If you have a PCY65 
inserted into 9/10 with a stereo cable, you still should only get one 
side of this dual mono input to fire, because the PCY65 doesn't have 
a second piezo to activate the other side, even if it is the so-
called stereo version. Only two mono triggers, or a dual-zone trigger 
(not stereo), with a total of two piezos, will allow both 9 and 10 to 
create their own sounds. A pad with one piezo and one FSR for the rim 
will behave like a mono trigger unless sent to a dedicated stereo 
input (on the DTXpress, inputs 1-7, I think).

> p.s. Are most of you living in the UK?

No, the group is composed mainly of people in the States, but we have 
a healthy smattering of UK members as well. Australia and the 
continent have a strong presence, too.

Ed

Ed,
The only way I can explain it based on what you're saying, is the 
contact on the jack plug is resting close enough to the line to hit 
the 10 area  of the stereo plug from time to time. 

Gordon

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
> wrote:
> > I was setting up a set with my ride cymbal (pcy65 plugged into 
> 9/10) 
> > set as a closed HH so I could play dbl bass and ride the HH at 
the 
> > same time.  I guess since I am using a stereo cable, I am able 
to 
> > trigger the 10 input as well as the 9.  I had to set them both 
> > because I have no control over when the 10 is going to trigger.  
> > I thought I'd mention that oddity because it reminded me of a 
> thread 
> > I read about resistors in the traces. (diff between a pcy65 & 
> pcy80?)
> 
> Gordon,
> 
> Could you explain what you mean a little more? If you have a PCY65 
> inserted into 9/10 with a stereo cable, you still should only get 
one 
> side of this dual mono input to fire, because the PCY65 doesn't 
have 
> a second piezo to activate the other side, even if it is the so-
> called stereo version. Only two mono triggers, or a dual-zone 
trigger 
> (not stereo), with a total of two piezos, will allow both 9 and 10 
to 
> create their own sounds. A pad with one piezo and one FSR for the 
rim 
> will behave like a mono trigger unless sent to a dedicated stereo 
> input (on the DTXpress, inputs 1-7, I think).
> 
> > p.s. Are most of you living in the UK?
> 
> No, the group is composed mainly of people in the States, but we 
have 

> a healthy smattering of UK members as well. Australia and the 
> continent have a strong presence, too.
> 
> Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
wrote:
> Ed,
> The only way I can explain it based on what you're saying, is the 
> contact on the jack plug is resting close enough to the line to hit 
> the 10 area  of the stereo plug from time to time. 

Gordon,

What's the evidence that both 9 and 10 are firing?

Ed

Ed,
The module goes pad9 or pad10 on the KIT IN screen.  
-G


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
> wrote:
> > Ed,
> > The only way I can explain it based on what you're saying, is 
the 
> > contact on the jack plug is resting close enough to the line to 
hit 

> > the 10 area  of the stereo plug from time to time. 
> 
> Gordon,
> 
> What's the evidence that both 9 and 10 are firing?
> 
> Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
wrote:
> Ed,
> The module goes pad9 or pad10 on the KIT IN screen.  
> -G

Okay, I got ya. You don't get drop outs or anything; it's just that 
the ring makes contact but no sound is associated with it and no 
triggering anomaly with the piezo that is engaged. No harm, no foul.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
> wrote:
> > Ed,
> > The module goes pad9 or pad10 on the KIT IN screen.  
> > -G
> 
> Okay, I got ya. You don't get drop outs or anything; it's just 
that 
> the ring makes contact but no sound is associated with it and no 
> triggering anomaly with the piezo that is engaged. No harm, no 
foul.
> 
> Ed

I think we're on the same page... since I could use a stereo cable 
in the 9/10 on a two zone, while the pcy65 jack is bouncing back and 
forth between the two rings on the stereo plug, the module sometimes 
sees it as a 9 and sometimes a 10.  BTW, I had lousy luck actually 
using a two zone with the 9/10 input. I finally wound up plugging my 
extra pcy65s into the ride and my pcy65 into the 9/10 (I use that 
for the ride).

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
wrote:
> I think we're on the same page... since I could use a stereo cable 
> in the 9/10 on a two zone, while the pcy65 jack is bouncing back 
and 
> forth between the two rings on the stereo plug, the module 
sometimes 
> sees it as a 9 and sometimes a 10.  BTW, I had lousy luck actually 
> using a two zone with the 9/10 input. I finally wound up plugging 
my 
> extra pcy65s into the ride and my pcy65 into the 9/10 (I use that 
> for the ride).

I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, because luck 
should have nothing to do with how 9/10 behaves with a dual-zone pad 
inserted. From what you wrote earlier, I'm assuming that you are 
informed about the difference between stereo and dual zone and that 
you weren't just saying that the PCY65s didn't work properly in 9/10, 
which would be true in principle. That being the case, which dual-
zone pad didn't work well and why? Also, unless someone can confirm 
your experience with 9/10 and a stereo cable connected to a mono pad, 
I'm not convinced that your cable isn't faulty.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
> wrote:
> > I think we're on the same page... since I could use a stereo 
cable 
> > in the 9/10 on a two zone, while the pcy65 jack is bouncing back 
> and 
> > forth between the two rings on the stereo plug, the module 
> sometimes 
> > sees it as a 9 and sometimes a 10.  BTW, I had lousy luck 
actually 
> > using a two zone with the 9/10 input. I finally wound up 
plugging 
> my 
> > extra pcy65s into the ride and my pcy65 into the 9/10 (I use 
that 
> > for the ride).
> 
> I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, because 
luck 
> should have nothing to do with how 9/10 behaves with a dual-zone 
pad 
> inserted. From what you wrote earlier, I'm assuming that you are 
> informed about the difference between stereo and dual zone and 
that 
> you weren't just saying that the PCY65s didn't work properly in 
9/10, 
> which would be true in principle. That being the case, which dual-
> zone pad didn't work well and why? Also, unless someone can 
confirm 
> your experience with 9/10 and a stereo cable connected to a mono 
pad, 
> I'm not convinced that your cable isn't faulty.
> 
> Ed



Whilst we are on this sort of subject,I have a question,I have a 
Yamaha PCY bell pad coming in the next day or so and I will be using 
it along side a TP 65 on 9/10.The question is do I need a stereo 
cable from the brain to the dual cable adaptor then 2 single mono 
leads to each of the pads.Or do I need a mono cable.


                   Russell Butterfield

--- Russell wrote:
> ... do I need a stereo cable from the brain to
> the dual cable adaptor then 2 single mono
> leads to each of the pads. Or do I need a mono cable.

You need a contrivance known as a "TRS splitter" - a stero jack plug 
on one end, and two mono sockets on the other, with the tip and ring 
sent to one of each of the sockets. You then run mono cables from 
your PCY10 and TP65 and plug them into the mono sockets on the 
splitter, and plug the stereo jack plug into 9/10.

Alternatively, you can get splitters with a stereo plug on one end 
and two mono plugs on the other, so you can then plug the stereo end 
into 9/10 and the mono ends into the two pads. However, these tend to 
(a) be quite short, and (b) have flimsy cables on the mono ends. I 
have one and gave up on it. The other way is more flexible.

Stewart

--- gordonbakos420 <g.bakos@...> wrote:

> p.s. Are most of you living in the UK? 

I'm living in Mexico, I guess the UK members are very
active in this group :P

Pedro.

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
> wrote:
> > I think we're on the same page... since I could use a stereo 
cable 
> > in the 9/10 on a two zone, while the pcy65 jack is bouncing back 
> and 
> > forth between the two rings on the stereo plug, the module 
> sometimes 
> > sees it as a 9 and sometimes a 10.  BTW, I had lousy luck 
actually 
> > using a two zone with the 9/10 input. I finally wound up 
plugging 
> my 
> > extra pcy65s into the ride and my pcy65 into the 9/10 (I use 
that 
> > for the ride).
> 
> I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, because 
luck 
> should have nothing to do with how 9/10 behaves with a dual-zone 
pad 
> inserted. From what you wrote earlier, I'm assuming that you are 
> informed about the difference between stereo and dual zone and 
that 
> you weren't just saying that the PCY65s didn't work properly in 
9/10, 
> which would be true in principle. That being the case, which dual-
> zone pad didn't work well and why? Also, unless someone can 
confirm 
> your experience with 9/10 and a stereo cable connected to a mono 
pad, 
> I'm not convinced that your cable isn't faulty.
> 
> Ed

I have to plead ignance on the diff between a dual zone and a 
stereo. I was under the impression that a single zone with a mono 
cable would come in on 9 and a dual zone with a stereo cable would 
trigger 9 or 10.  It was in fact the pcy65s that worked poorly in 
the 9/10 input. Reviewing the manual, It mentions plugging a bp80 
into 9/10 (whats that?) but says nothing about a pcy65s.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Theguy Withnoeye 
<theguywithnoeye@y...> wrote:
> --- gordonbakos420 <g.bakos@i...> wrote:
> 
> > p.s. Are most of you living in the UK? 
> 
> I'm living in Mexico, I guess the UK members are very
> active in this group :P
> 
> Pedro.
> 
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
> http://shopping.yahoo.com

Quite a diverse group.  Variety  is the spice of life.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
wrote:
> I have to plead ignance on the diff between a dual zone and a 
> stereo. I was under the impression that a single zone with a mono 
> cable would come in on 9 and a dual zone with a stereo cable would 
> trigger 9 or 10.  It was in fact the pcy65s that worked poorly in 
> the 9/10 input. Reviewing the manual, It mentions plugging a bp80 
> into 9/10 (whats that?) but says nothing about a pcy65s.

Okay, now we really are on the same page. A single-zone pad--that is, 
a pad with only one piezo--will trigger through only one "side" of 
the 9/10 combo with either a mono or stereo cable. Only a true dual-
zone pad--that is, a pad with two independent piezos--will access 
both 9 and 10 with a stereo cable (via tip and ring). An example 
would be a Pintech ConcertCast snare (with separate piezos for body 
and rim), a Visu-lite ride (separate piezos for bow and edge), etc. 
The Yamaha PCY65S will not take full advantage of 9/10 because it is 
only a single-piezo pad. It's second sound comes from a switch on the 
rim that allows the centrally located piezo to make a different sound 
when the rim is struck. This kind of pad is called "stereo" to 
distinguish it from the dual-zone variety. The Yamaha BP is a thin, 
relatively long, tube which houses two independent triggers along the 
shaft; as a true, dual-zone pad, it is tailor-made for input 9/10. 
This type of pad, which a number of companies manufacture, is often 
used for percussion sounds, but it can be a practical alternative to 
e-drums or e-cymbals because its unobtrusive shape is easy to 
accommodate on a rack. If you don't want to waste your stereo pads, 
keep them out of 9/10; use two separate mono pads or dual-zone pads 
there instead.

Ed

>  The Yamaha BP is a thin, 
> relatively long, tube which houses two independent triggers along the 
> shaft; 
> 
There are photos of one (inside and out) in the photo gallery in the folder
"Inside the dtxpress/bp80".


OGD


 
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> 
> wrote:
> > I have to plead ignance on the diff between a dual zone and a 
> > stereo. I was under the impression that a single zone with a 
mono 
> > cable would come in on 9 and a dual zone with a stereo cable 
would 
> > trigger 9 or 10.  It was in fact the pcy65s that worked poorly 
in 
> > the 9/10 input. Reviewing the manual, It mentions plugging a 
bp80 
> > into 9/10 (whats that?) but says nothing about a pcy65s.
> 
> Okay, now we really are on the same page. A single-zone pad--that 
is, 
> a pad with only one piezo--will trigger through only one "side" of 
> the 9/10 combo with either a mono or stereo cable. Only a true 
dual-
> zone pad--that is, a pad with two independent piezos--will access 
> both 9 and 10 with a stereo cable (via tip and ring). An example 
> would be a Pintech ConcertCast snare (with separate piezos for 
body 
> and rim), a Visu-lite ride (separate piezos for bow and edge), 
etc. 
> The Yamaha PCY65S will not take full advantage of 9/10 because it 
is 
> only a single-piezo pad. It's second sound comes from a switch on 
the 
> rim that allows the centrally located piezo to make a different 
sound 
> when the rim is struck. This kind of pad is called "stereo" to 
> distinguish it from the dual-zone variety. The Yamaha BP is a 
thin, 
> relatively long, tube which houses two independent triggers along 
the 
> shaft; as a true, dual-zone pad, it is tailor-made for input 9/10. 
> This type of pad, which a number of companies manufacture, is 
often 
> used for percussion sounds, but it can be a practical alternative 
to 
> e-drums or e-cymbals because its unobtrusive shape is easy to 
> accommodate on a rack. If you don't want to waste your stereo 
pads, 
> keep them out of 9/10; use two separate mono pads or dual-zone 
pads 
> there instead.
> 
> Ed

Thanks for clearing that up for me Ed.  Now it all makes sense.  
Including why I must be sooo careful to hit the pcy65s in a way so's 
not to trigger both sounds.
-G

>  Ed
> 
> Thanks for clearing that up for me Ed.  Now it all makes sense.  
> Including why I must be sooo careful to hit the pcy65s in a way so's 
> not to trigger both sounds.
> -G
>  
> 
Ed/Vern,

This is just another example of a typical question that gets ask over and
over. The problem as I see it is, not in the questions coming up and being
asked/answer repeatedly. That's not the problem, questions are always
welcome. 

We all here enjoy helping out (ED does most of it, credit where credit is
due) and will hopefully never get tired of answer questions. I just hate
reading post where you can clearly tell someone is at their wits end, trying
solve a problem, when they could be enjoying the new experience of playing
their new kit. 

For example in this case if we were to create a graphic (you know, a picture
is worth a thousand words) that could show the difference between the single
zone, dual zone, stereo zone and how they relate to the dtxpress zones 1-10
(or other modules) and put it in the files area. Perhaps this would help in
reducing stress levels and increasing fun levels.

It would really be nice if we could one day have a PDF format manual
published by this group that has all the tips and setup tidbits, diagrams,
reviews that could be downloaded by the newbie or by folks that are about to
purchase a dtx or other system. We could call it "The dtxpress (or Edrums)
for smarties" (drummers are not dummies) ;)

I don't have the Adobe Acrobat for generating the PDF files that could be
read universally or I would volunteer (maybe after the Halloween festivities
are complete at my house and things slow down for me, I will look into it
more.)
Just another rambling thought from the oldguy.

OGD
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Even a 'dictionary' in a word format could help. Definitions could be 
written one by one, sent to Vern, and then added to a master document.
Stephen

Alternate title: "Drumb and Drumber"

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700" <brown8700@a...> wrote:
> Even a 'dictionary' in a word format could help. Definitions could 
be 
> written one by one, sent to Vern, and then added to a master 
document.
> Stephen
> 
> Alternate title: "Drumb and Drumber"

Fellas,

I think OGD's idea is excellent. (God only knows how long Stephen was 
waiting for a chance to unleash that title.) If we want to 
concentrate on the DTXpress, at least in the beginning, we can 
approach the file as a supplement to the manual; we can even break it 
down according to Set Up, Play, Voice, Trigger, Utility, MIDI, etc. 
Where the manual ends--the points that tend to generate newbie 
confusion--under these titles, we can begin to build our own 
material. Otherwise it might be hard to run through the alphabet 
trying to think of e-drum words that begin with "a," "b," etc. Does 
anyone familiar with the manual's soft spots think that this approach 
might work? All interested parties could make suggestions (and write 
copy, if possible). There are no limits to what we can do. As I've 
said before, I'd also like to include other equipment that might 
interest people, connecting it with whatever reviews we might 
generate, as a kind of appendix. 

How long do we want to be composing this primer? We could add to it 
continuously, but it might be good to have a core file that people 
could access pretty quickly. Unfortunately, that means someone is 
going to be busy.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700" <brown8700@a...> 
wrote:
> > Even a 'dictionary' in a word format could help. Definitions 
could 
> be 
> > written one by one, sent to Vern, and then added to a master 
> document.
> > Stephen
> > 
> > Alternate title: "Drumb and Drumber"
> 
> Fellas,
> 
> I think OGD's idea is excellent. (God only knows how long Stephen 
was 
> waiting for a chance to unleash that title.) If we want to 
> concentrate on the DTXpress, at least in the beginning, we can 
> approach the file as a supplement to the manual; we can even break 
it 
> down according to Set Up, Play, Voice, Trigger, Utility, MIDI, 
etc. 
> Where the manual ends--the points that tend to generate newbie 
> confusion--under these titles, we can begin to build our own 
> material. Otherwise it might be hard to run through the alphabet 
> trying to think of e-drum words that begin with "a," "b," etc. 
Does 
> anyone familiar with the manual's soft spots think that this 
approach 
> might work? All interested parties could make suggestions (and 
write 
> copy, if possible). There are no limits to what we can do. As I've 
> said before, I'd also like to include other equipment that might 
> interest people, connecting it with whatever reviews we might 
> generate, as a kind of appendix. 
> 
> How long do we want to be composing this primer? We could add to 
it 
> continuously, but it might be good to have a core file that people 
> could access pretty quickly. Unfortunately, that means someone is 
> going to be busy.
> 
> Ed


And then when it's all finished... release it in paperback.
-G

--- OlderGuyDrummer wrote:
> For example in this case if we were to create a graphic
> (you know, a picture is worth a thousand words)...
> It would really be nice if we could one day have a PDF
> format manual published by this group...
> I don't have the Adobe Acrobat...

[waves arms]

I do.

Since I have (temporarily, anyway) dropped the elastomeric spheroid 
on the Koby review (end of quarter at work, and very busy at home 
too) I will take this one on.

Anyone who has anything they think should go in such a manual, 
please send it to my Yahoo mail account. I will also trawl the back 
archives here, and pick up the tips from Vern's place. I will then 
accumulate, edit and regurgitate and send to the moderators for 
review.

Stewart

--- Ed wrote:
> How long do we want to be composing this primer?

Too many years in the software industry tells you one thing above 
all else: big bang projects fail. If we set off writing a book, 
it'll never be finished. If we do it by committee, it'll never be 
finished. If we write a book by committee, well...

Let's keep the ambition modest but useful for the moment. All of the 
accumulated wisdom from here, Vern's place and in the heads of the 
members, edited for consistent style, will be a hugely valuable 
resource without shooting for the moon.

If it evolves beyond that, terrific. In the meantime, I will do as I 
mooted in the last message. I shall aim to have a draft out by this 
time next week latest, but if I accumulate enough material before 
then it should be sooner.

And thanks to Steven for the title. That's a winner... B-)

Stewart

> If it evolves beyond that, terrific. In the meantime, I will do as I 
> mooted in the last message. I shall aim to have a draft out by this 
> time next week latest, but if I accumulate enough material before 
> then it should be sooner.
> 
> And thanks to Steven for the title. That's a winner... B-)
> 
> Stewart
> 
> 
We could also take the photos of the components and reduce there file size
down and add them to the manual, so that when we describe a FSR rim trigger
or a piezo trigger the reader will know exactly what we are talking about.
In the future components from other manufacturers could be "disassembled"
and added.

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> I shall aim to have a draft out by this 
> time next week latest, but if I accumulate enough material before 
> then it should be sooner.
> 
> And thanks to Steven for the title. That's a winner... B-)

Celebration in the streets! Huzzahs to Stewart, who seems to have 
sacrificed what seems to be very precious free time to the cause. In 
the area of wit and wisdom, we are in splendid hands. "Drumb and 
Drumber," indeed. Stewart, please don't feel compelled to hold 
schedule. 

Ed

--- OldGuy wrote:
> We could also take the photos of the components and...
>... add them to the manual

Way ahead of you, already in the plan... B-)

Stewart

--- Ed wrote:
> ... Stewart, who seems to have sacrificed
> what seems to be very precious free time...

... that I can spend on my butt in the study, which is easy, rather 
than schlepping about the countryside with modules, which is not easy 
right now.

> Stewart, please don't feel compelled to hold 
> schedule. 

Oh dear. You've never been a project manager have you, Ed? Never 
*ever* say "don't worry about the schedule" to a software engineer.

I set that deadline because I'm busy the following weekend, taking #1 
daughter to London to test-fly some ridiculously expensive flutes, 
then going to see "Matrix Reloaded" on the IMAX to recover. Any time 
between those two events will be spent in the pub.

There's a wealth of material hereabouts. All it needs for the first 
cut is organising.

As for the Koby thing, I plan to go to the Music Live! show to see 
Colin, which is mid-November from memory.

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> Oh dear. You've never been a project manager have you, Ed? Never 
> *ever* say "don't worry about the schedule" to a software engineer.

Stewart,

I just don't want you to feel compelled to bring the same "ASAP isn't 
soon enough" attitude to this little project. This club is supposed 
to be fun. Work isn't (unless you're lucky or determined). You're 
right, though. My bailiwick is academia, which is much more 
sympathetic to dilatory tactics than the computer industry. What you 
intend to do for us is way beyond the call of duty, and much 
appreciated.

Ed

ED SED: In the area of wit and wisdom, we are in splendid 
hands. "Drumb and 
Drumber," indeed. 

I'm an Ad Guy; I make my living via wit and wisdom (although the 
wisdom could be questioned).

For what it's worth Stewart- Imax did not help a weak movie all that much

-----Original Message-----
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--- Ed wrote:
> ... Stewart, who seems to have sacrificed
> what seems to be very precious free time...

... that I can spend on my butt in the study, which is easy, rather 
than schlepping about the countryside with modules, which is not easy 
right now.

> Stewart, please don't feel compelled to hold 
> schedule. 

Oh dear. You've never been a project manager have you, Ed? Never 
*ever* say "don't worry about the schedule" to a software engineer.

I set that deadline because I'm busy the following weekend, taking #1 
daughter to London to test-fly some ridiculously expensive flutes, 
then going to see "Matrix Reloaded" on the IMAX to recover. Any time 
between those two events will be spent in the pub.

There's a wealth of material hereabouts. All it needs for the first 
cut is organising.

As for the Koby thing, I plan to go to the Music Live! show to see 
Colin, which is mid-November from memory.

Stewart




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--- Creighton Higgins wrote:
> Imax did not help a weak movie all that much

I'm relying on the beer to do that.

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> I'm relying on the beer to do that.

Then you'll be leaving the theater too often to actually see it.

--- I foolishly wrote:

> There's a wealth of material hereabouts. All it needs for
> the first cut is organising.

You'd think that, at 46, I'd have learned to think before opening my 
mouth. I've now gone backwards from the end to message #6000 (576 
messages, or just under 9% of them all) and I already have 16 pages 
of cut-n-pasted raw material in a Word document.

Excuse me while I go make some coffee...

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
>I've now gone backwards from the end to message #6000 (576 
> messages, or just under 9% of them all) and I already have 16 pages 
> of cut-n-pasted raw material in a Word document.
> 
> Excuse me while I go make some coffee...
> 
When did the DTXpressII come out? You can stop going back from that 
point. Presumably the earlier material will largely duplicate what 
comes after--at least enough to justify using Occam's razor. Gaps can 
always be filled through a deliberate search of the archives or 
direct questions.

--- Ed wrote:
> When did the DTXpressII come out? You can stop going
> back from that point.

Nowhere near there yet ... 29% down, and gone back as far as the end 
of May this year. However, the returns on investment in terms of new 
material is wearing thin, and I have 30 pages of raw material, so I 
sense it's time to start culling and redrafting. Pascal applies, I 
think.

Stewart

this is a good plan

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
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> I'm relying on the beer to do that.

Then you'll be leaving the theater too often to actually see it.



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