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Using the layers

Using the layers

2004-01-07 by jebersohl

I'm new to the site and would like to know how to use the layers 
feature on the DTX II.  Will this feature get me closer to a true 
acoustic sound?  I would like to use the kit to record with my band 
on a home computer and don't want the electronic sounding "acoustic" 
drums on the recording.  Is this possible and can anyone help?  
Thanks.

Re: Using the layers

2004-01-07 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jebersohl" <john@d...> wrote:
> I'm new to the site and would like to know how to use the layers 
> feature on the DTX II.  Will this feature get me closer to a true 
> acoustic sound?  I would like to use the kit to record with my band 
> on a home computer and don't want the electronic 
sounding "acoustic" 
> drums on the recording.  Is this possible and can anyone help?  
> Thanks.

Hi John,

Welcome to the group. A stab at answering your question 
commprehensively could use up all of the bandwidth that we're 
allotted here. I'll assume that you don't want to know how to set 
voice layers; that's one of the functions that the manual handles 
well enough. Do you want to know what criteria to use when layering 
to create the best approximation of an acoustic snare?  That's a 
tough one. First of all, it's subjective; different people have 
different tolerances and tastes. Second, Yamaha's voice names don't 
always give an indication of what they sound like, which means that 
experimenting is unavoidable. Layering can give a voice more or less 
ring, punch, depth, etc. When my snare sound came from the DTXpressI, 
I was partial to Snare H and Wood Snare (16 and 23 on the dial), and 
I don't remember even layering them. One of the group's longtime 
members recently sent me two fairly polished studio CDs for which he 
used the DTXpress module for the snare. It sounded good enough for me 
to ask which voice he was using--Steel 65 as it turns out. I hope 
that people will step up and suggest the layers and voices on the II 
that approximate acoustic sounds best to them.

Ed

Re: Using the layers

2004-01-07 by Rob

I really like chocolate layer cake, you know that one that Entenmanns 
makes? Yum.

Re: Using the layers

2004-01-07 by moosetication

--- Ed wrote:
 
> I hope that people will step up and suggest the layers
> and voices on the II that approximate acoustic sounds
> best to them.

My current favourite (as seen on TV ... well, WMV anyway) is:

V=1 S006 MapleA50 Vol=100 Fc=-8
V=2 S019 MapleRim Vol=90 F=-32
X Fade=8

Any parameter I haven't listed is default. This gives me a velocity 
cross-faded rimshot as I use a Pintech SE102 pad for the snare, 
which has only one rim which I use for sidestick.

I have several others for different purposes (practicing rudiments, 
for example) but that's the #1 choice for "real" playing.

Stewart

RE: [DTXpress] Re: Using the layers

2004-01-13 by John S. Ebersohl

I used your Steel drum recommendation for the snare (the pop) and added one of the Maple drums on another layer for the warmth. It sounds pretty good.

I still have a lot of learning to do with the layers \u2013 maybe the software that people are talking about developing will help out. It\u2019s tough scrolling through the menus and remembering what was used. If everything was laid out in front of me it would be easier.

Thanks for the help,

John

-----Original Message-----
From: emf [mailto:liberatusvirus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:25 PM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Using the layers

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jebersohl" wrote:
> I'm new to the site and would like to know how to use the layers
> feature on the DTX II. Will this feature get me closer to a true
> acoustic sound? I would like to use the kit to record with my band
> on a home computer and don't want the electronic
sounding ";acoustic"
> drums on the recording. Is this possible and can anyone help?
> Thanks.

Hi John,

Welcome to the group. A stab at answering your question
commprehensively could use up all of the bandwidth that we're
allotted here. I'll assume that you don't want to know how to set
voice layers; that's one of the functions that the manual handles
well enough. Do you want to know what criteria to use when layering
to create the best approximation of an acoustic snare? That's a
tough one. First of all, it's subjective; different people have
different tolerances and tastes. Second, Yamaha's voice names don't
always give an indication of what they sound like, which means that
experimenting is unavoidable. Layering can give a voice more or less
ring, punch, depth, etc. When my snare sound came from the DTXpressI,
I was partial to Snare H and Wood Snare (16 and 23 on the dial), and
I don't remember even layering them. One of the group's longtime
members recently sent me two fairly polished studio CDs for which he
used the DTXpress module for the snare. It sounded good enough for me
to ask which voice he was using--Steel 65 as it turns out. I hope
that people will step up and suggest the layers and voices on the II
that approximate acoustic sounds best to them.

Ed



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