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DTXpress III in stores NOW

DTXpress III in stores NOW

2004-02-08 by Stuart McConaghy

Hey Gang,

just a note to say that the DTXpress III's are hitting GC's 
cross-country NOW. My store got one in yesterday (sadly no demo unit 
yet, but hopefully soon, I want to check out the new sounds)

Stuart McConaghy
Canopus Drums
Meinl Cymbals
SilverFox Sticks

Re: DTXpress III in stores NOW

2004-02-08 by jjcorley0000

Yep, I just saw a DTXpressIIISTD (stacked in the boxes) at my 
local GC today (Kirkland, WA).  I asked the clerk when he'd have a 
demo setup and he said as soon as one of the other demo units 
sold ... and he pointed out a guy who was considering buying a II or 
a V-Club.

   When I asked about the IIISP, he didn't know what I was talking 
about, looked in his computer and didn't see anything listed for it.
:(


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy <stuart@s...> wrote:
> Hey Gang,
> 
> just a note to say that the DTXpress III's are hitting GC's 
> cross-country NOW. My store got one in yesterday (sadly no demo 
unit 
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> yet, but hopefully soon, I want to check out the new sounds)
> 
> Stuart McConaghy
> Canopus Drums
> Meinl Cymbals
> SilverFox Sticks

Re: [DTXpress] Re: DTXpress III in stores NOW

2004-02-08 by Stuart McConaghy

Yep, the IIISP isn't listed in our system (yet), but you also asked on 
a Saturday, when Yamaha isn't available for dealer support, so there's 
no wonder he couldn't give you any info. Yamaha's also notoriously late 
in shipping out literature on anything, we usually get lit 6-8 months 
after the product hits the market, that's how bad Yamaha is. Best 
always ask during the week, vendors are always just a phone call away, 
and any GC drum salesman worth his or her salt will make a call for you.

Stuart McConaghy
Canopus Drums
Meinl Cymbals
SilverFox Sticks

On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 11:41  PM, jjcorley0000 wrote:

>
>    Yep, I just saw a DTXpressIIISTD (stacked in the boxes) at my
> local GC today (Kirkland, WA).  I asked the clerk when he'd have a
> demo setup and he said as soon as one of the other demo units
> sold ... and he pointed out a guy who was considering buying a II or
> a V-Club.
>
>    When I asked about the IIISP, he didn't know what I was talking
> about, looked in his computer and didn't see anything listed for it.
> :(
>
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy <stuart@s...> wrote:
> > Hey Gang,
> >
> > just a note to say that the DTXpress III's are hitting GC's
> > cross-country NOW. My store got one in yesterday (sadly no demo
> unit
> > yet, but hopefully soon, I want to check out the new sounds)
> >
> > Stuart McConaghy
> > Canopus Drums
> > Meinl Cymbals
> > SilverFox Sticks
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: DTXpress III in stores NOW

2004-02-08 by moosetication

--- Stuart McConaghy wrote:
[lots of good stuff]

Great having someone in the trade on the board.

Have you guys been given MAPs for the individual components yet? 
Particularly the module and cymbals (including the hi-hat pad).

Stewart

Re: [DTXpress] Re: DTXpress III in stores NOW

2004-02-09 by Stuart McConaghy

Nope, not yet, but I'll let you all know as soon as we do.

Stuart McConaghy
Canopus Drums
Meinl Cymbals
SilverFox Drums

On Sunday, February 8, 2004, at 10:19  AM, moosetication wrote:

> --- Stuart McConaghy wrote:
> [lots of good stuff]
>
> Great having someone in the trade on the board.
>
> Have you guys been given MAPs for the individual components yet?
> Particularly the module and cymbals (including the hi-hat pad).
>
> Stewart
>
>
>
> Community email addresses:
>   Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com
>
> Shortcut URL to this page:
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress
>
> Alternate DTXpress site:
>   http://www.dtxpressions.com
>
>
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Re: DTXpress III in stores NOW

2004-02-10 by jjcorley0000

BTW, stopped at GC today hoping they'd have the III kit setup so 
I could hear it...

    It already sold.  :(

    I also stopped in at Drumbalaya on the weekend and fell in love 
with the sound of the ddrum.  Who cares about triple-zone wazoo's and 
modeled knick-knacks yada yada; the ddrum just sounds AWESOME!  It so 
blows away all the Roland modules when you A/B them right next to 
each other.  It's sad ddrum doesn't get any floor space.  Roland 
would have a hard time selling their stuff (particularly at their 
prices) if people could hop from one kit to the other and really 
listen to them back to back.

    *crossing my fingers for the new sounds of the Yamaha stuff*

    I hope that those borrowed Yamaha keyboard sounds really do the 
trick, because it will be hard for me to pass up the ddrum...

    BTW, big thumbs up to the folks at drumbalaya!  These guys know 
their stuff.  Scott was a great help and has bottomless patience.



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy <stuart@s...> wrote:
> Yep, the IIISP isn't listed in our system (yet), but you also asked 
on 
> a Saturday, when Yamaha isn't available for dealer support, so 
there's 
> no wonder he couldn't give you any info. Yamaha's also notoriously 
late 
> in shipping out literature on anything, we usually get lit 6-8 
months 
> after the product hits the market, that's how bad Yamaha is. Best 
> always ask during the week, vendors are always just a phone call 
away, 
> and any GC drum salesman worth his or her salt will make a call for 
you.
> 
> Stuart McConaghy
> Canopus Drums
> Meinl Cymbals
> SilverFox Sticks
> 
> On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 11:41  PM, jjcorley0000 wrote:
> 
> >
> >    Yep, I just saw a DTXpressIIISTD (stacked in the boxes) at my
> > local GC today (Kirkland, WA).  I asked the clerk when he'd have a
> > demo setup and he said as soon as one of the other demo units
> > sold ... and he pointed out a guy who was considering buying a II 
or
> > a V-Club.
> >
> >    When I asked about the IIISP, he didn't know what I was talking
> > about, looked in his computer and didn't see anything listed for 
it.
> > :(
> >
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy <stuart@s...> 
wrote:
> > > Hey Gang,
> > >
> > > just a note to say that the DTXpress III's are hitting GC's
> > > cross-country NOW. My store got one in yesterday (sadly no demo
> > unit
> > > yet, but hopefully soon, I want to check out the new sounds)
> > >
> > > Stuart McConaghy
> > > Canopus Drums
> > > Meinl Cymbals
> > > SilverFox Sticks
> >
> >
> >
> > Community email addresses:
> >   Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> >   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Shortcut URL to this page:
> >   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress
> >
> > Alternate DTXpress site:
> >   http://www.dtxpressions.com
> >
> >
> <image.tiff>
> >
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> >
> > • 	To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/
> >  
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Service.
> >

Re: DTXpress III in stores NOW (with a ddrum aside)

2004-02-10 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jjcorley0000" <jjc@s...> wrote:
> 
>     BTW, stopped at GC today hoping they'd have the III kit setup 
so 
> I could hear it...
> 
>     It already sold.  :(
> 
>     I also stopped in at Drumbalaya on the weekend and fell in love 
> with the sound of the ddrum.  Who cares about triple-zone wazoo's 
and 
> modeled knick-knacks yada yada; the ddrum just sounds AWESOME!  It 
so 
> blows away all the Roland modules when you A/B them right next to 
> each other.  It's sad ddrum doesn't get any floor space.  Roland 
> would have a hard time selling their stuff (particularly at their 
> prices) if people could hop from one kit to the other and really 
> listen to them back to back.
> 
>     *crossing my fingers for the new sounds of the Yamaha stuff*
> 
>     I hope that those borrowed Yamaha keyboard sounds really do the 
> trick, because it will be hard for me to pass up the ddrum...
> 
>     BTW, big thumbs up to the folks at drumbalaya!  These guys know 
> their stuff.  Scott was a great help and has bottomless patience.

Ditto ddrum and Drumbalaya. I own, and cherish, a ddrum module, and I 
wouldn't give it up for the world. I'm sure that Drumbalaya has 
informed you, however, that as it stands now, the ddrum kit has 
certain quirks that may or may not matter to you. For one thing, its 
MIDI functionality is limited. Once the module's ten inputs are 
filled, it cannot accommodate any more pads.  In other words, you 
can't expand the kit through the module with a trigger to MIDI 
device. Its memory is also seriously constrained in the face of 
Clavia's immense library; regular uploading/downloading to swap 
sounds is unavoidable, unless you've found a small number of them to 
satisfy you for the duration. If you load megakit sounds, you might 
not have room for more than two kits or so at a time. 

The module was intially geared toward the cast precision mylar pads, 
which carried a center-mount piezo on the bottom. This design allowed 
positional sensing with certain voices, but like all mylars, it was a 
little noisy. When Clavia updated the module's chip with mesh 
capability and issued their own mesh pads, Roland's patent on center-
mount bottom piezos--essential for positional sensing--prevented 
Clavia from triggering their meshes anywhere but on the side, thereby 
sacrificing one of its advantages. Some people get around the problem 
by simply placing meshes on the expensive cast precision pads, but it 
doesn't work for everyone, for a number of reasons. Pintech meshes 
are another option; they are the only meshes licensed to use Roland-
style triggering (my strategy).

On the cymbal front, Clavia's own are the only ones that get the most 
out of the module. I find them a little stiff. By using another 
company's cymbals, I get slightly anomalous response. For instance, 
my bell sounds are often located southeast of where the actual bell 
is. At this point, Clavia's excellent hi hat is sui generis. 
Apparently, Drumbalaya has an adaptor for Roland, but it does not 
work as well as Clavia's own controller.

You already have an idea of ddrum's considerable upside. Rumors of a 
ddrum5 have been circulating literally for years. It's on the way, 
and it will probably address the limitations outlined above. But no 
one knows when it will arrive. Clavia is a small company, and it 
marches to the beat of its own drummer (sorry). As much as I love my 
ddrum module, I can't get away with using it without help, and 
Yamaha's does what ddrum's doesn't, and does it well. I'm itching to 
get one of the new Yamahas.

Ed

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