Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Yeah, i know this topic has been beaten into the ground. but i'm looking for some 
different info. my band has switched to all headphones. all 4 of us wear them now, so the 
only thing you hear when you walk into our "studio" (actually it's just a shed in my back 
yard. heh) is the sound of really terrible singing and sticks hitting 8 inch rubber pads. 
hehehe. but i digress...
here's the problem: we all wear cans, but we want the ability to adjust the levels of each 
instrument independently without affecting the mix being recorded. i've heard about a 
headphone distribution system that can do it, something connected by ethernet cables? 
does anyone out there use something like this? anyone have any brilliant suggestions? it is 
almost surreal playing this way. it's like we're listening to a perfectly mixed CD when we 
jam. it's nice and all, but sometimes we all want to hear our own instruments scream 
above the noise and confusion, sort of like when you're playing with REAL amps and REAL 
drums ;)

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> Yeah, i know this topic has been beaten into the ground. but i'm 
looking for some 
> different info. my band has switched to all headphones. all 4 of us 
wear them now, so the 
> only thing you hear when you walk into our "studio" (actually it's 
just a shed in my back 
> yard. heh) is the sound of really terrible singing and sticks 
hitting 8 inch rubber pads. 
> hehehe. but i digress...
> here's the problem: we all wear cans, but we want the ability to 
adjust the levels of each 
> instrument independently without affecting the mix being recorded. 
i've heard about a 
> headphone distribution system that can do it, something connected 
by ethernet cables? 
> does anyone out there use something like this? anyone have any 
brilliant suggestions? it is 
> almost surreal playing this way. it's like we're listening to a 
perfectly mixed CD when we 
> jam. it's nice and all, but sometimes we all want to hear our own 
instruments scream 
> above the noise and confusion, sort of like when you're playing 
with REAL amps and REAL 
> drums ;)

I don't know anything about an ethernet system that can adust 
relative volumes, but there seems to be at least one unit that can 
take a mix from eight inputs and allow a subordinate mix to each of 
eight different outputs: http://tinyurl.com/29xr6. Is this something 
like what you have in mind? 

Ed

Weird. I got a File Not Found error on that page. Where was that link
to that you sent? What was it? This is the thing that I am
considering: 

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040219062638063073155001310275/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/241501/


In case there's any issues with that URL, it's a Furman HDS-6
Headphone Distribution Amp. From MusiciansFriend.com:  

"Allows every artist to have a personalized headphone mix independent
of the board. Perfect for studio, rehearsals, and use as a powered
monitor system on stage. The rackmount HDS-6 connects to the console
and provides the interface and amplification to drive a chain of up to
8 HR-6 Personal Headphone Mixers. HDS-6 to HR-6 linking is provided by
inexpensive Ethernet computer cables (one set included). The HDS-6
also provides Ground lift, on-off switches, power-on LED, Overload
LEDs for each channel, and a Link Cables Reversed indicator. The HDS-6
System comes with one HR-6 mixer. Additional mixers available
separately. "

This sounds pretty cool to me, but I was just wondering if there are
any alternatives to this.

Thanks for your help!



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> > Yeah, i know this topic has been beaten into the ground. but i'm 
> looking for some 
> > different info. my band has switched to all headphones. all 4 of
us 
> wear them now, so the 
> > only thing you hear when you walk into our "studio" (actually
it's 
> just a shed in my back 
> > yard. heh) is the sound of really terrible singing and sticks 
> hitting 8 inch rubber pads. 
> > hehehe. but i digress...
> > here's the problem: we all wear cans, but we want the ability to 
> adjust the levels of each 
> > instrument independently without affecting the mix being
recorded. 
> i've heard about a 
> > headphone distribution system that can do it, something connected 
> by ethernet cables? 
> > does anyone out there use something like this? anyone have any 
> brilliant suggestions? it is 
> > almost surreal playing this way. it's like we're listening to a 
> perfectly mixed CD when we 
> > jam. it's nice and all, but sometimes we all want to hear our own 
> instruments scream 
> > above the noise and confusion, sort of like when you're playing 
> with REAL amps and REAL 
> > drums ;)
> 
> I don't know anything about an ethernet system that can adust 
> relative volumes, but there seems to be at least one unit that can 
> take a mix from eight inputs and allow a subordinate mix to each of 
> eight different outputs: http://tinyurl.com/29xr6. Is this
something 

> like what you have in mind? 
> 
> Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> Weird. I got a File Not Found error on that page. Where was that 
link
> to that you sent? What was it? This is the thing that I am
> considering: 
> 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040219062638063073155001310275
/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/241501/
> 
> 
> In case there's any issues with that URL, it's a Furman HDS-6
> Headphone Distribution Amp. From MusiciansFriend.com:  

The Furman does look good, and the price is right. The one that I 
meant is a Shure, the Auxpander, and its upfront cost is considerably 
higher. The wild card is how much the remote mixers cost for the 
Furman. The full link to the Shure is:
http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?
key=ShrAxPndr&preadd=action


Ed

Hey Jay

I think I would go with a simpler approach, something
like this Headphones amp

http://tinyurl.com/ysqqb
or
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040219073958148244068034343115/g=live/search/detail/base_pid/180615/

much cheaper, but well I play alone or with maybe a
friend sometimes, so I would not ever spend nearly
400dlls for such equipment, if you walk by my house
you will either hear some really horrible singing, or
some sticks hitting rubber pads, in a rather
inconsistent manner..... well I hope to be of some
help.

Pedro.

--- Jay <jayluv6@...> wrote:
> Weird. I got a File Not Found error on that page.
> Where was that link
> to that you sent? What was it? This is the thing
> that I am
> considering: 
> 
>
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040219062638063073155001310275/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/241501/
> 
> 
> In case there's any issues with that URL, it's a
> Furman HDS-6
> Headphone Distribution Amp. From
> MusiciansFriend.com:  
> 
> "Allows every artist to have a personalized
> headphone mix independent
> of the board. Perfect for studio, rehearsals, and
> use as a powered
> monitor system on stage. The rackmount HDS-6
> connects to the console
> and provides the interface and amplification to
> drive a chain of up to
> 8 HR-6 Personal Headphone Mixers. HDS-6 to HR-6
> linking is provided by
> inexpensive Ethernet computer cables (one set
> included). The HDS-6
> also provides Ground lift, on-off switches, power-on
> LED, Overload
> LEDs for each channel, and a Link Cables Reversed
> indicator. The HDS-6
> System comes with one HR-6 mixer. Additional mixers
> available
> separately. "
> 
> This sounds pretty cool to me, but I was just
> wondering if there are
> any alternatives to this.
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf"
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay"
> <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> > > Yeah, i know this topic has been beaten into the
> ground. but i'm 
> > looking for some 
> > > different info. my band has switched to all
> headphones. all 4 of
> us 
> > wear them now, so the 
> > > only thing you hear when you walk into our
> "studio" (actually
> it's 
> > just a shed in my back 
> > > yard. heh) is the sound of really terrible
> singing and sticks 
> > hitting 8 inch rubber pads. 
> > > hehehe. but i digress...
> > > here's the problem: we all wear cans, but we
> want the ability to 
> > adjust the levels of each 
> > > instrument independently without affecting the
> mix being
> recorded. 
> > i've heard about a 
> > > headphone distribution system that can do it,
> something connected 
> > by ethernet cables? 
> > > does anyone out there use something like this?
> anyone have any 
> > brilliant suggestions? it is 
> > > almost surreal playing this way. it's like we're
> listening to a 
> > perfectly mixed CD when we 
> > > jam. it's nice and all, but sometimes we all
> want to hear our own 
> > instruments scream 
> > > above the noise and confusion, sort of like when
> you're playing 
> > with REAL amps and REAL 
> > > drums ;)
> > 
> > I don't know anything about an ethernet system
> that can adust 
> > relative volumes, but there seems to be at least
> one unit that can 
> > take a mix from eight inputs and allow a
> subordinate mix to each of 
> > eight different outputs: http://tinyurl.com/29xr6.
> Is this
> something 
> > like what you have in mind? 
> > 
> > Ed
> 
> 


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Yeah, we're gonna use a headphone amp for a short term solution. Our
guitarist was in a 'professional' studio a few weeks ago and that's
where he saw the headphone distribution setup. We all want to hear
ourselves louder than the final mix, so it looks like we're gonna have
to come up with a serious chunk of change to do it. :(

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Theguy Withnoeye
<theguywithnoeye@y...> wrote:
> Hey Jay
> 
> I think I would go with a simpler approach, something
> like this Headphones amp
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ysqqb
> or
>
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040219073958148244068034343115/g=live/search/detail/base_pid/180615/
> 
> much cheaper, but well I play alone or with maybe a
> friend sometimes, so I would not ever spend nearly
> 400dlls for such equipment, if you walk by my house
> you will either hear some really horrible singing, or
> some sticks hitting rubber pads, in a rather
> inconsistent manner..... well I hope to be of some
> help.
> 
> Pedro.
> 
> --- Jay <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> > Weird. I got a File Not Found error on that page.
> > Where was that link
> > to that you sent? What was it? This is the thing
> > that I am
> > considering: 
> > 
> >
>
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040219062638063073155001310275/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/241501/

> > 
> > 
> > In case there's any issues with that URL, it's a
> > Furman HDS-6
> > Headphone Distribution Amp. From
> > MusiciansFriend.com:  
> > 
> > "Allows every artist to have a personalized
> > headphone mix independent
> > of the board. Perfect for studio, rehearsals, and
> > use as a powered
> > monitor system on stage. The rackmount HDS-6
> > connects to the console
> > and provides the interface and amplification to
> > drive a chain of up to
> > 8 HR-6 Personal Headphone Mixers. HDS-6 to HR-6
> > linking is provided by
> > inexpensive Ethernet computer cables (one set
> > included). The HDS-6
> > also provides Ground lift, on-off switches, power-on
> > LED, Overload
> > LEDs for each channel, and a Link Cables Reversed
> > indicator. The HDS-6
> > System comes with one HR-6 mixer. Additional mixers
> > available
> > separately. "
> > 
> > This sounds pretty cool to me, but I was just
> > wondering if there are
> > any alternatives to this.
> > 
> > Thanks for your help!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf"
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Jay"
> > <jayluv6@y...> wrote:
> > > > Yeah, i know this topic has been beaten into the
> > ground. but i'm 
> > > looking for some 
> > > > different info. my band has switched to all
> > headphones. all 4 of
> > us 
> > > wear them now, so the 
> > > > only thing you hear when you walk into our
> > "studio" (actually
> > it's 
> > > just a shed in my back 
> > > > yard. heh) is the sound of really terrible
> > singing and sticks 
> > > hitting 8 inch rubber pads. 
> > > > hehehe. but i digress...
> > > > here's the problem: we all wear cans, but we
> > want the ability to 
> > > adjust the levels of each 
> > > > instrument independently without affecting the
> > mix being
> > recorded. 
> > > i've heard about a 
> > > > headphone distribution system that can do it,
> > something connected 
> > > by ethernet cables? 
> > > > does anyone out there use something like this?
> > anyone have any 
> > > brilliant suggestions? it is 
> > > > almost surreal playing this way. it's like we're
> > listening to a 
> > > perfectly mixed CD when we 
> > > > jam. it's nice and all, but sometimes we all
> > want to hear our own 
> > > instruments scream 
> > > > above the noise and confusion, sort of like when
> > you're playing 
> > > with REAL amps and REAL 
> > > > drums ;)
> > > 
> > > I don't know anything about an ethernet system
> > that can adust 
> > > relative volumes, but there seems to be at least
> > one unit that can 
> > > take a mix from eight inputs and allow a
> > subordinate mix to each of 
> > > eight different outputs: http://tinyurl.com/29xr6.
> > Is this
> > something 
> > > like what you have in mind? 
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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