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Complete newbie looking for advice

Complete newbie looking for advice

2004-03-16 by dan_honemann@yahoo.com

Hi,

I'm interested in buying a Yamaha DTXPRESS III kit and so far know 
very little about it.  To provide a bit of background, I've been 
playing drums off and on (mostly off lately) for over forty years, 
and decided I'd like to get back to it using an electronic kit (I 
still have my original Ludwig set from the early 1970's, but it's way 
too loud to play in my townhouse).

I checked out the Yamaha kit at the Guitar Center near my home 
(Towson, MD) and it looks perfect for my purposes.  

The three questions I have at this point are:

1. What's a good price on the DTXPRESS III?  Guitar Center is 
offering it for $1k, which includes a Yamaha single-stroke bass petal 
along with the standard kit.

2. What amp and monitor speakers do you recommend for use with the 
kit?  Guitar Center has a floor display Roland set (can't recall the 
model number, unfortunately) they are willing to sell me for $500 
(originally $695).

3. What venues exist online for selling a used acoustic kit (full set 
of Ludwigs with Zildjians)

Thanks very much for any help you can offer.  I haven't played for 
over 15 years now, mainly due to noise considerations, so I'm really 
excited about this kit and getting back into percussion.  It's an 
entirely new world since the last time I shopped around for drums!

Best regards,
Dan

Re: Complete newbie looking for advice

2004-03-16 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, dan_honemann@y... wrote:
> I'm interested in buying a Yamaha DTXPRESS III kit and so far know 
> very little about it.  To provide a bit of background, I've been 
> playing drums off and on (mostly off lately) for over forty years, 
> and decided I'd like to get back to it using an electronic kit (I 
> still have my original Ludwig set from the early 1970's, but it's 
way 
> too loud to play in my townhouse).

Hi Dan, 

Welcome to the group (plus ca change . . .). This entire board is a 
giant FAQ, but you can search the archive under DTXpressIII for 
recent discussion about this kit. Some of the lingo will confuse you, 
but it will give you a basis for asking questions. When you get your 
new e-drums, remember that as silent as they are, relative to 
acoustics, they aren't totally noise-free. You might want to check 
with your neighbors about what they can hear and make the requisite 
adjustments physically or temporally. 

> 1. What's a good price on the DTXPRESS III?  Guitar Center is 
> offering it for $1k, which includes a Yamaha single-stroke bass 
petal 
> along with the standard kit.

At this point, nobody seems to be doing much better than $999 + a 
free pedal, though I haven't checked Riks Music lately. The GC deal 
sounds right.
 
> 2. What amp and monitor speakers do you recommend for use with the 
> kit?  Guitar Center has a floor display Roland set (can't recall 
the 
> model number, unfortunately) they are willing to sell me for $500 
> (originally $695).

You have any number of options for amping. GC might have offered the 
Roland PM-3 drum monitor (two satellites and a subwoofer?); if only 
because of Roland's shamelessly high prices, $500 would be a good 
price for it. Otherwise, for home use, a keyboard amp (not guitar or 
generally not a bass amp) would be good, too; the options are many--
Behringer and Roland being popular for e-drummers. Also, Yamaha 
offers the MDR-50 or 100 drum monitors for about $300 and $600, 
respectively, for the DTXP kits. 

Again, e-drums through proper amplification can sound unexpectedly 
powerful. In fact, they don't sound convincing unless they have some 
power behind them, but if they do, they risk being inappropriate in 
apartments or townhouses. A good set of studio headphones not only 
diminishes the problem considerably, it's also a better window on the 
sound quality of your kit. I'd ask GC if you can listen to their 
studio cans--Sony, AKG, Sennheiser, etc.--with one of the kits on the 
floor (unfortunately, the problem with floor models is that they 
usually sound dreadful), or a keyboard instead. With a closed, low 
impedance, and high sensitivity design, you should be able to hear 
yourself, with any accompanying music, well enough at a reasonable 
volume to protect your ears and drown out extraneous stick or ambient 
noise. I recommend the phones, at least until you get the lay of the 
land.
 
> 3. What venues exist online for selling a used acoustic kit (full 
set 
> of Ludwigs with Zildjians).

Unless someone knows of a dedicated site for used drums, ebay has a 
flourishing list of drums for sale. If you'd rather avoid an auction, 
half.com is another possible venue. You could also list it at the 
Yahoo site drums4sale or in any classified section offered at various 
drum forums. Other people might have ideas.
 
> Thanks very much for any help you can offer.  I haven't played for 
> over 15 years now, mainly due to noise considerations, so I'm 
really 
> excited about this kit and getting back into percussion.  It's an 
> entirely new world since the last time I shopped around for drums!

You are definitely going to have a blast. Keep us informed, and ask 
away.

Ed

RE: [DTXpress] Re: Complete newbie looking for advice

2004-03-16 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, dan_honemann@y... wrote:
> 
> > 1. What's a good price on the DTXPRESS III?   Guitar Center is 
> > offering it for $1k, which includes a Yamaha single-stroke bass 
> petal 
> > along with the standard kit.
> 
> 
Dan,

Keep in mind if you want to buy locally but get a web price, that Guitar
Center will price match. I found the best deal online and printed out the
web page and took it to my local GC and they matched it. The best deal I
found at the time was the Dtxpress II, with throne, single kick pedal,
headphones and VHS tape for $999.98 on the web and GC matched it. They
didn't have the tape, so they substituted extra sticks. 

OGD
 
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Re: Complete newbie looking for advice

2004-03-16 by dan_honemann@yahoo.com

Ed and OGD,

Thanks very much for your thoughtful replies!  I've been busy 
browsing the messages on this list, and have already learned a great 
deal.  What a terrific resource.

I just phoned GC and the amp & monitors they want to sell me are 
indeed the Roland PM-3.  For $500, I may bite.  They sounded plenty 
good enough in the store.

I'll be sure to check out phones as well, but for now my intention is 
to jam with some friends who've been twisting my arm to get back 
behind a set, so the amp will have to do.

OGD:
> The best deal I found at the time was the Dtxpress II, with throne, 
> single kick pedal, headphones and VHS tape for $999.98 on the web 
> and GC matched it.

Would you mind sharing the URL where you found this deal?  Sounds 
perfect.  Otherwise, the $1k price for the set plus pedal at GC is 
good enough for me; a nice plus is that they're offering a no 
interest payment plan this week that means not having to pay for the 
kit until 11 months later.  

Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep the list informed of my 
progress.

Dan

RE: [DTXpress] Re: Complete newbie looking for advice

2004-03-16 by nicholas.gunn@btconnect.com

Dont forget there is also www.edrumming.com for an all round edrumming forum & info site.
Gunny
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Sent: 16 March 2004 16:27
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Complete newbie looking for advice

Ed and OGD,

Thanks very much for your thoughtful replies! I've been busy
browsing the messages on this list, and have already learned a great
deal. What a terrific resource.

I just phoned GC and the amp & monitors they want to sell me are
indeed the Roland PM-3. For $500, I may bite. They sounded plenty
good enough in the store.

I'll be sure to check out phones as well, but for now my intention is
to jam with some friends who've been twisting my arm to get back
behind a set, so the amp will have to do.

OGD:
> The best deal I found at the time was the Dtxpress II, with throne,
> single kick pedal, headphones and VHS tape for $999.98 on the web
> and GC matched it.

Would you mind sharing the URL where you found this deal? Sounds
perfect. ; Otherwise, the $1k price for the set plus pedal at GC is
good enough for me; a nice plus is that they're offering a no
interest payment plan this week that means not having to pay for the
kit until 11 months later.

Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep the list informed of my
progress.

Dan



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Re: Complete newbie looking for advice

2004-03-16 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, dan_honemann@y... wrote:
> OGD:
> > The best deal I found at the time was the Dtxpress II, with 
throne, 
> > single kick pedal, headphones and VHS tape for $999.98 on the web 
> > and GC matched it.

Dan,

I'll take the liberty of covering for OGD, since he's often busy 
these days (although he'll probably answer while I'm answering). I 
don't recall his URL on that quote, but the usual suspects are 
midwestpercussion.com (great store), musiciansbuy.com, 
americanmusical.com, samedaymusic.com, and zzounds.com, many of which 
don't even list the new Yamahas yet. The ones that do aren't 
underselling GC at this early stage. You might take a look at 
riksmusic.com; they don't quote on the web. But you can phone them 
for what is usually a great price.

Ed

RE: [DTXpress] Re: Complete newbie looking for advice

2004-03-16 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Ed, I believe it was Rik's music.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	emf [SMTP:liberatusvirus@...]
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> Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: Complete newbie looking for advice
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, dan_honemann@y... wrote:
> > OGD:
> > > The best deal I found at the time was the Dtxpress II, with 
> throne, 
> > > single kick pedal, headphones and VHS tape for $999.98 on the web 
> > > and GC matched it.
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I'll take the liberty of covering for OGD, since he's often busy 
> these days (although he'll probably answer while I'm answering). I 
> don't recall his URL on that quote, but the usual suspects are 
> midwestpercussion.com (great store), musiciansbuy.com, 
> americanmusical.com, samedaymusic.com, and zzounds.com, many of which 
> don't even list the new Yamahas yet. The ones that do aren't 
> underselling GC at this early stage. You might take a look at 
> riksmusic.com; they don't quote on the web. But you can phone them 
> for what is usually a great price.
> 
> Ed
> 
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Complete newbie looking for advice

2004-03-16 by Ken

I finally decided on a Peavey KB2 keyboard amp after purchasing, carting home, hooking up, and playing through a Behrenger bass amp, a Yamaha multimedia system, and a Crate 15 watt keyboard amp, and returning all of them. I'm really satisfied with the KB2. I highly recommend this amp. Check online, some places offer free shipping.
Ken
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Ed and OGD,

Thanks very much for your thoughtful replies! I've been busy
browsing the messages on this list, and have already learned a great
deal. What a terrific resource.

I just phoned GC and the amp & monitors they want to sell me are
indeed the Roland PM-3. For $500, I may bite. They sounded plenty
good enough in the store.

I'll be sure to check out phones as well, but for now my intention is
to jam with some friends who've been twisting my arm to get back
behind a set, so the amp will have to do.

OGD:
> The best deal I found at the time was the Dtxpress II, with throne,
> single kick pedal, headphones and VHS tape for $999.98 on the web
> and GC matched it.

Would you mind sharing the URL where you found this deal? Sounds
perfect. Otherwise, the $1k price for the set plus pedal at GC is
good enough for me; a nice plus is that they're offering a no
interest payment plan this week that means not having to pay for the
kit until 11 months later.

Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep the list informed of my
progress.

Dan



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