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DTXpress II or III

DTXpress II or III

2004-03-22 by wzk283

I was waiting to but a DTXPress III which is due in the UK in the 
next month. Probably around £799 (without bass pedal) via mail order 
however I went into a local drum today and they had a DTXPress III in 
stock for £799 but I was get them to include some extras in the price 
so for £799

DTXPress II Kit
Throne
Premier Bass Pedal (£69 normaly, 6000 series I think)
Drum Sticks
Next day home delivery and setup
1 Drum lesson
Local shop so close if there are any problems etc.

Sounds like a good? or is it worth waiting for the III and paying 
extra.

What are the main differences?

RE: [DTXpress] DTXpress II or III

2004-03-22 by nicholas.gunn@btconnect.com

Can you re read that post and explain what it was you were looking at, maybe even a full stop .......:-))
Gunny
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Subject: [DTXpress] DTXpress II or III

I was waiting to but a DTXPress III which is due in the UK in the
next month. Probably around £799 (without bass pedal) via mail order
however I went into a local drum today and they had a DTXPress III in
stock for £799 but I was get them to include some extras in the price
so for £799

DTXPress II Kit
Throne
Premier Bass Pedal (£69 normaly, 6000 series I think)
Drum Sticks
Next day home delivery and setup
1 Drum lesson
Local shop so close if there are any problems etc.

Sounds like a good? or is it worth waiting for the III and paying
extra.

What are the main differences?




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Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-22 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wzk283" <mark_davies@n...> wrote:
> I was waiting to but a DTXPress III which is due in the UK in the 
> next month. Probably around £799 (without bass pedal) via mail 
order 
> however I went into a local drum today and they had a DTXPress III 
in 
> stock for £799 but I was get them to include some extras in the 
price 
> so for £799
> 
> DTXPress II Kit
> Throne
> Premier Bass Pedal (£69 normaly, 6000 series I think)
> Drum Sticks
> Next day home delivery and setup
> 1 Drum lesson
> Local shop so close if there are any problems etc.
> 
> Sounds like a good? or is it worth waiting for the III and paying 
> extra.
> 
> What are the main differences?

Mark,

I hope more people than me respond. The main difference between the 
DTXPII and IIISTD are the new rack and the module's new cymbal 
sounds, which stand to be an advance over those in the II. For some 
of us, the prospect of motif cymbals is a big deal, but it won't 
necessarily matter to someone who wants a kit now and wants it as 
cheaply and conveniently as possible. If you were in line for the 
IIISP, I'd definitely advise waiting, but with the IIISTD, I'm not so 
sure. Let's play devil's advocate:

Have you actually sat on the throne that the store is offering. Your 
derriere is going to be spending a lot of time on that thing, and all 
thrones are not created equal. Have a seat on it for a while and try 
to imagine whether the prospect of hours at a time on it still seems 
inviting. If you might be buying another one soon, this freebie might 
not matter.

I'm not familiar with the Premier pedal; I assume that it's entry-
level quality, which by no means makes it worthless. On the contrary, 
it's probably a nice catch. Maybe someone else can say more. 

You do need drumsticks, but in the scheme of things, a free pair or 
two here and there doesn't amount to much. One drum lessons can't 
really be any more than a tease for you to continue, which wouldn't 
necessarily be a bad thing if you like the teacher etc.

The local drum shop around the corner is not to be sneezed at, not 
just for dealing with anything that goes wrong but also for helping 
with the upgrade path. Does the shop stock Yamaha hardware? Do they 
stock any other kind of edrum gear that might appeal to you down the 
road?  If not, can they get it quickly? There's often a lot of mixing 
and matching in this game. Headphones should be an immmediate 
priority, and not just any will do. We can help with what you need to 
look for, but if the shop has appropriate options, you'll be in good 
shape. Finally, the more business you do with a local dealer, the 
more you are apt to receive price breaks. 

Next-day delivery is great, but setup? I honestly think that setting 
the kit up yourself is a valuable way to get familiar with the 
components. You have to consult the manual, find out what such and 
such is called, learn firsthand which components require which 
cables, etc. 

How does this all add up to you? Does the II look like the winner? A 
month or so isn't a long time to wait if you aren't convinced that 
the bird in hand is better. Are you sure that your mail or web order 
of the III won't include a pedal and/or throne? I hope I've given you 
some food for thought. Some of our UK members might be able to whip 
up a better meal.

Ed

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-22 by wzk283

Thanks emf thats made me think a bit.  IS the module on the IIISTD 
any different for the II, or is it just the softer pads, grey rack 
and coded leads.  Or and maybe the resale value (not that I would 
every sell it of course)

Let me correct the post for those who didn't understand it as I've 
been on the beer :)

I'm waiting to but a DTXPress III Standard which is due in the UK in 
the next month. It will probably around sell for around £799 (without 
bass pedal) via mail order, however I went into the local drum (and 
yamaha) shop today and they had a DTXPress II in stock for £799. I 
stated I was looking for a III so they offered to include some extras 
in the price 

For £799

DTXPress II Kit
Throne
Premier Bass Pedal (£69 normaly, 6000 series I think)
Drum Sticks
Next day home delivery and setup
1 Drum lesson
Local shop close if there are any problems etc.

Sounds like a good? or is it worth waiting for the III and paying 
extra.

What are the main differences?

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-22 by Chris

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Some of our UK members might be able to whip 
> up a better meal.

I do try! :-)

People are going to start thinking that I work for Thomann or 
something but I'm going to recommend them again.

DTXpress IIISTD for £671.02 plus £12 delivery to the UK.

http://tinyurl.com/3gf7l

Chris

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-22 by Chris

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <proguk@h...> wrote:

> DTXpress IIISTD for £671.02 plus £12 delivery to the UK.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3gf7l

I forgot to mention that it's also available with a pedal for the 
same price.  It doesn't look to be the best pedal in the world but 
it's effectively free.

http://tinyurl.com/2a8bv

Chris

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-23 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wzk283" <mark_davies@n...> wrote:
> Thanks emf thats made me think a bit.  IS the module on the IIISTD 
> any different for the II, or is it just the softer pads, grey rack 
> and coded leads.  Or and maybe the resale value (not that I would 
> every sell it of course)

Module is largely the same except for the new cymbal voices and maybe 
something relatively inessential here and there.

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-23 by wzk283

That is cheap, They also include a millenium pedal in that price.  
Has anyone bought a DTXPress from Thomann? 
Is it the same spec as the one sold in the UK?  
What about warrantee etc?
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> 
> I do try! :-)
> 
> People are going to start thinking that I work for Thomann or 
> something but I'm going to recommend them again.
> 
> DTXpress IIISTD for £671.02 plus £12 delivery to the UK.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3gf7l
> 
> Chris

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-23 by willsud

FWIW I spoke to Thomanns at length yesterday about edrums and was 
sufficiently impressed to place an order.
  
Thomann's staff English is pretty good and they seem knowledgeable, 
very helpful... and cheap (or should that be less expensive!)

For pre-orders they insist on a photocopy of your passport and same 
of your credit card (!)

regards,
Will


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wzk283" <mark_davies@n...> wrote:
> That is cheap, They also include a millenium pedal in that price.  
> Has anyone bought a DTXPress from Thomann?

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-23 by wzk283

Did you buy a DTXPress, if so when will Thomann have them in stock?

Cheers

Mark

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "willsud" <ws@l...> wrote:
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> FWIW I spoke to Thomanns at length yesterday about edrums and was 
> sufficiently impressed to place an order.
>   
> Thomann's staff English is pretty good and they seem knowledgeable, 
> very helpful... and cheap (or should that be less expensive!)
> 
> For pre-orders they insist on a photocopy of your passport and same 
> of your credit card (!)
> 
> regards,
> Will
> 
>

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-23 by willsud

Mark,

I was hoping you weren't going to ask that!

I dearly love my Dtxpress but after 4 good years of Yamaha I'm going 
to take out a 2nd mortgage and give the Vdrum TD20s a try.  

Thomann's were very exact about delivery dates... they said 'not even 
Roland know' (!) so at least they're honest about it.  

From past experience (including when I bought my chromed steel 
Premier Resonator kit in 1979 which took 6 months to come) I just 
wait and see with delivery dates from all drum manufacturers.

If it's any help, for Yamaha gear I've always driven (200 miles) down 
to Chappel of Bond St. at Milton Keynes - the drum guys seem 
straight, and I think they might even be part of the Yamaha UK 
organisation.

I have regular dealings with a Bavarian company in my day job so I'm 
fairly comfortable ordering from Thomanns - the shop is in a village 
near Bamberg (which I know from holidays - big beer drinking area :) -
 'big shop, small village' Thomann's staff say.

It's not as good as being able to walk into your local shop if 
something doesn't work - but how many of us still have a local drum 
shop? ... and the prices are excellent.

There's probably a down side somewhere - more pressure on UK shops I 
suppose.

Sorry for a long-winded non-answer.

regards,
Will




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wzk283" <mark_davies@n...> wrote:
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> Did you buy a DTXPress, if so when will Thomann have them in stock?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
>

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-23 by Chris

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "willsud" <ws@l...> wrote:
> It's not as good as being able to walk into your local shop if 
> something doesn't work - but how many of us still have a local 
drum 
> shop?

Funnily enough, it was my local drum shop (Nottingham Drum Centre) 
that recommended Thomann to me!  Mind you, they were having supplier 
problems at the time.

Chris

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-24 by jonddf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <proguk@h...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Some of our UK members might be able to whip 
> > up a better meal.
> 
> I do try! :-)
> 
> People are going to start thinking that I work for Thomann or 
> something but I'm going to recommend them again.
> 
> DTXpress IIISTD for £671.02 plus £12 delivery to the UK.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3gf7l
> 
> Chris
---------------------------
Thomann's prices are very competitive. I've an old upright piano I 
want to lose to make way for a digital piano so rang a local piano 
shop to see if they wanted it. Was I thinking of getting another 
piano, they asked? Yes, I said - possibly a Roland HP3e. They quoted 
me £1199 including removal of the old piano. Thomman did the same 
piano for £945 + delivery (around £25 I think)
JohnD

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-24 by willsud

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jonddf" <jonddf@a...> wrote:
> Thomann's prices are very competitive. I've an old upright piano


How about Anderton's online 'special' price for the Vdrum TD20s kit 
of £5,000 - 
Thomann's price currently about £3,500 (incl vat) - 
and best pre-order deal I've been offered verbally in UK is £4,100.

Weird.

Will

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-24 by wzk283

I just placed my order with Thomann. DTXpress III's are now in 
stock :)
Got myself a throne and some drums sticks plus a free pedal 
(Millenium - looks a bit cheap but hopefully will be OK to start ).

Thanks again 

Mark

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-24 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wzk283" <mark_davies@n...> wrote:
> I just placed my order with Thomann. DTXpress III's are now in 
> stock :)
> Got myself a throne and some drums sticks plus a free pedal 
> (Millenium - looks a bit cheap but hopefully will be OK to start ).

Mark,

Sounds great. I've heard good things about Thomann lately. Keep us 
informed.

Ed

Re: DTXpress II or III

2004-03-28 by wzk283

> Mark,
> 
> Sounds great. I've heard good things about Thomann lately. Keep us 
> informed.
> 
> Ed


I cancelled my order with Thomann.
They needed some photocopies etc. which meant a delay of an extra 
week as I was not in the position to get them back any earlier.  
Based on feedback regarding the III, there does not appear to be much 
difference (i.e. the cymbal sounds are only marginaly better) so I 
bought a II at my local (5 miles) drum shop.  The guy there really 
looked after me, throwing in a quality Tama throne, £70 kick pedal, 
couple of sets of Vic Firth sticks, good set of headphones, delivery 
the same day to my home including setup and an hour expaining the 
basics of the DTXPress. Also 2 free drum lessons (the first of which 
I had today :)

I know I have paid more (Approx £100) for a II than I could have got 
a III from Thomann but I don't mind paying a bit extra for a quality 
local service.
The DTXPress is great :) I havn't stopped playing since yesterday , 
well finally got to bed at 5:00 am this morning :)

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