Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I want to add another PC65s Crash cymbal to my DTXpress II. Can I use 
the 9/10 input for the pc65s and still get all the features of the 
normal crash input? If anyone can help I'd be greatful!

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "supernovanexus" 
<supernovanexus@y...> wrote:
> I want to add another PC65s Crash cymbal to my DTXpress II. Can I 
use 
> the 9/10 input for the pc65s and still get all the features of the 
> normal crash input? If anyone can help I'd be greatful!

Well, then again the ride input is the same as the crash input if I 
am reading correctly. Might I be able to plug another dual-zone crash 
pad into the ride input and confugure it to make the crash noise? I 
was thinking that then I could somehow get a ride to plug into input 
9/10, since its stereo and not dual-zone or whatever. Just another 
idea. Anyone have exoerience with this, please help me out.

Hi,

Yes, you can. I, myself bought a pcy65+pcy10(cym.bell) and utilized 
the 9/10 port. You need a stereo cable which is split up into two 
mono cables in one end. Since input 9/10 correspond to one channel 
each you'll go mono on these two. A single mono crash cymbal will 
fit perfectly, and yes, they are supposed to be mono, you don't need 
stero for cymbals.

Rick 









--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "supernovanexus" 
<supernovanexus@y...> wrote:
> I want to add another PC65s Crash cymbal to my DTXpress II. Can I 
use 
> the 9/10 input for the pc65s and still get all the features of the 
> normal crash input? If anyone can help I'd be greatful!

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "supernovanexus" 
<supernovanexus@y...> wrote:
 
> Well, then again the ride input is the same as the crash input if I 
> am reading correctly. Might I be able to plug another dual-zone 
crash 
> pad into the ride input and confugure it to make the crash noise? I 
> was thinking that then I could somehow get a ride to plug into 
input 
> 9/10, since its stereo and not dual-zone or whatever. Just another 
> idea. Anyone have exoerience with this, please help me out.

Yes, you can use the ride input as a crash input and then use 9/10 
for a ride. But 9/10 is the dual-zone input, not stereo like inputs 6 
and 7. If you're unclear about the difference still, take a moment 
and browse the archives under stereo. Something is bound to come up 
that explains it. Be forewarned that if you use 9/10 for your ride, 
your configuration will not match that of the factory kits, if it 
matters to you.

Ok...that would work. If I were to set 9/10 to use the ride and a 
piece for the bell, could I then put a PCY65S Crash pad into the ride 
input in place of the normal PCY65 and be able to use the crash and 
the rim switch to perform the chokes with the ride input? After 
reading, it looks like the Crash and Ride inputs are exactly the 
same, while I could split 9/10 and use the PCY65 there instead if in 
its normal ride input. I could then use the ride input to support a 
PCY65S crash with the rim switch to produe the chokes as well.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "supernovanexus" 
<supernovanexus@y...> wrote:
> Ok...that would work. If I were to set 9/10 to use the ride and a 
> piece for the bell, could I then put a PCY65S Crash pad into the 
ride 
> input in place of the normal PCY65 and be able to use the crash and 
> the rim switch to perform the chokes with the ride input? After 
> reading, it looks like the Crash and Ride inputs are exactly the 
> same, while I could split 9/10 and use the PCY65 there instead if 
in 
> its normal ride input. I could then use the ride input to support a 
> PCY65S crash with the rim switch to produe the chokes as well.

Right. Ride and crash inputs are interchangeable (in fact, you could 
run a snare in them, too. Input types (like stereo, mono, dual zone) 
will accept any type of pad that meets their requirements. You simply 
have to make the proper adjustment of the pad-type setting in the 
trigger mode. Input 9/10 is essentially double mono, which in this 
context is not the same as stereo; you can put a PCY65 (no rim) in 9 
and the little Yamaha bell unit in 10 via a TRS splitter (stereo from 
input to two mono leads for the pads). But you can also plug a single 
dual-zone (dual-mono, not the same as stereo) cymbal (bow with bell) 
or dual-zone pad (mesh head with rim) into 9/10. Yamaha doesn't make 
such an animal, but Visu-lite and Pintech, for instance, do, 
respectively).

--- Ed wrote:

> Be forewarned that if you use 9/10 for your ride, your
> configuration will not match that of the factory kits...

Actually it might, depending which input you split it to. Most of 
the factory kits have 9 as a ride and 10 as a cowbell.

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- Ed wrote:
> 
> > Be forewarned that if you use 9/10 for your ride, your
> > configuration will not match that of the factory kits...
> 
> Actually it might, depending which input you split it to. Most of 
> the factory kits have 9 as a ride and 10 as a cowbell.

Good point. I forgot about that.

Thanx all, was very helpful. A few last questions...Does Yamaha make 
a cymbal that has two zones for ride and bell where the one zone is 
where the bell on an actual cymbal would be (center)? Does Yamaha 
make a pad small enough to be used as a bell that I could attach on 
top of a PCY65? Maybe getting another brain or a trigger-to-midi 
converter might help, but I first have to get some nice speakers 
before I can do that.