Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Ok... I have tried to read through the archives but man I'm way too 
tired... I just got my Dtxpress III (YAY!) and I want to dump what's 
in it and retore the defaults (A. I want to check out the previous 
owners sounds. B. I want to make sure I can do this when I want to 
back up my sounds)

Did anything ever come out of that offline editor program?

I've done a dump in dumpster but dtxchang locks up when trying to 
load it... and dtxchange doesn't seem to recieve any data when 
waiting for the bulk dump... unless I'm just stupid and don't know 
how to use it.

and freeloader crashes right after the dump is finished :(

What should I be doing to get this backup properly?

Thanks in advance,
Gilligan

Hi Gilligan
I'm in the same boat with my DTX-II (Thanks for your previous 
response by the way). - As I'm not a drummer, I need to save and 
reload my carefully recorded user patterns reliably.
We are writing a full backup/restore utility for the DTX which is 
almost complete (the restore timing needs adjusting at the moment, 
then it needs a good thrashing before release), as soon as its done, 
I will send you a link to download it. - Probably in a couple of days.

For now - it might help you to know that in the past we've played 
with the DTXchange utility, and managed to backup/restore drumkits 
sucessfully. Weve also managed to backup (but not restore) the user 
song data with it. The author (Greg) was great, and very helpfully, 
sent me the source for reference in writing our new utility. - 
DTXchange is great at what it was meant to do, but it wasnt designed 
to backup/restore of all the data types as its structured for one Sys-
ex data drumkit at a time. From memory, you basically run it up, do 
the "Midi-Setup", "Receive", then tell the DTXpress to dump the kit, 
then "Save". It creates a PC file with the Sys-Ex event data in it. - 
Restoring is basically the reverse, i.e. "Load", "Send". - I imagine 
the file format used is personal to the DTXchange program and not 
interchangable with other.

I guess if you save the user kit and any user songs data you want to 
keep using this, it will then be safe to do the Factory reset.

Good Luck
Roger

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" <kevin_richard@b...> 
wrote:
> Ok... I have tried to read through the archives but man I'm way too 
> tired... I just got my Dtxpress III (YAY!) and I want to dump 
what's 

> in it and retore the defaults (A. I want to check out the previous 
> owners sounds. B. I want to make sure I can do this when I want to 
> back up my sounds)
> 
> Did anything ever come out of that offline editor program?
> 
> I've done a dump in dumpster but dtxchang locks up when trying to 
> load it... and dtxchange doesn't seem to recieve any data when 
> waiting for the bulk dump... unless I'm just stupid and don't know 
> how to use it.
> 
> and freeloader crashes right after the dump is finished :(
> 
> What should I be doing to get this backup properly?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Gilligan

Thanks for the reply... I'm very excited about this new program you 
guys are working on.  What language are you programming it in?  I 
have a bit of VB experience if that is any help and I would 
definately be willing thrash it around a bit as a beta... especially 
considering there is nothing "real" important on my unit yet and I'm 
also about to trash this whole system and reinstall.

Let me know if you need someone on a win2000 box with a DTXpressIII 
to test this out for you,
Gilligan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "custom_elect" <custom_elect@y...> 
wrote:
> Hi Gilligan
> I'm in the same boat with my DTX-II (Thanks for your previous 
> response by the way). - As I'm not a drummer, I need to save and 
> reload my carefully recorded user patterns reliably.
> We are writing a full backup/restore utility for the DTX which is 
> almost complete (the restore timing needs adjusting at the moment, 
> then it needs a good thrashing before release), as soon as its 
done, 
> I will send you a link to download it. - Probably in a couple of 
days.
> 
> For now - it might help you to know that in the past we've played 
> with the DTXchange utility, and managed to backup/restore drumkits 
> sucessfully. Weve also managed to backup (but not restore) the user 
> song data with it. The author (Greg) was great, and very helpfully, 
> sent me the source for reference in writing our new utility. - 
> DTXchange is great at what it was meant to do, but it wasnt 
designed 
> to backup/restore of all the data types as its structured for one 
Sys-
> ex data drumkit at a time. From memory, you basically run it up, do 
> the "Midi-Setup", "Receive", then tell the DTXpress to dump the 
kit, 
> then "Save". It creates a PC file with the Sys-Ex event data in 
it. - 
> Restoring is basically the reverse, i.e. "Load", "Send". - I 
imagine 
> the file format used is personal to the DTXchange program and not 
> interchangable with other.
> 
> I guess if you save the user kit and any user songs data you want 
to 
> keep using this, it will then be safe to do the Factory reset.
> 
> Good Luck
> Roger
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" 
<kevin_richard@b...> 
> wrote:
> > Ok... I have tried to read through the archives but man I'm way 
too 
> > tired... I just got my Dtxpress III (YAY!) and I want to dump 
> what's 
> > in it and retore the defaults (A. I want to check out the 
previous 
> > owners sounds. B. I want to make sure I can do this when I want 
to 
> > back up my sounds)
> > 
> > Did anything ever come out of that offline editor program?
> > 
> > I've done a dump in dumpster but dtxchang locks up when trying to 
> > load it... and dtxchange doesn't seem to recieve any data when 
> > waiting for the bulk dump... unless I'm just stupid and don't 
know 

> > how to use it.
> > 
> > and freeloader crashes right after the dump is finished :(
> > 
> > What should I be doing to get this backup properly?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Gilligan

DTXchange was done in VB using the Maybry control, and we first 
extended that to handle multiple messages. We are doing a VC++ app in 
the form of a wizard for walking the user through the process.
We are trying to eliminate the (now obsolete) Maybry control, and 
we've got the backup going using native serial comms, but the DTX 
seems a bit funny over timing on the restores, so we may be stuck 
with still using it.
Apart from backup/restore - what I really want to do with the 
software is load the user song area direct from a standard midi file, 
without going through the recording process. - But we cant seem to 
work out how the data is stored internally.

Thanks for the offer of testing - we'll be sure to take you up on 
that.
Roger
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" <kevin_richard@b...> 
wrote:
> Thanks for the reply... I'm very excited about this new program you 
> guys are working on.  What language are you programming it in?  I 
> have a bit of VB experience if that is any help and I would 
> definately be willing thrash it around a bit as a beta... 
especially 
> considering there is nothing "real" important on my unit yet and 
I'm 

> also about to trash this whole system and reinstall.
> 
> Let me know if you need someone on a win2000 box with a DTXpressIII 
> to test this out for you,
> Gilligan