Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hey Folks,

I've had an order placed at my local shop (Long & McQuade in Ottawa, 
Canada) for some PCY130s and Yamaha doesn't seem to be able to give 
L+M a reliable availability date (original was early June, now the 
answer is "don't know").

Does anyone know if the PCY130s are available yet as extra pads (not 
part of the DTXpress III kit)?

Thanks!

Cheers,
Rich.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "rjwyatt_99" <rjwyatt@n...> wrote:
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I've had an order placed at my local shop (Long & McQuade in 
Ottawa, 
> Canada) for some PCY130s and Yamaha doesn't seem to be able to give 
> L+M a reliable availability date (original was early June, now the 
> answer is "don't know").
> 
> Does anyone know if the PCY130s are available yet as extra pads 
(not 
> part of the DTXpress III kit)?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> Rich.

Rich,

Yamaha originially said if the DtxpressIII/IIIsp and the Dtxtreme IIS 
were selling like hot cakes, that the sale of individual components 
would be delayed. Folks in the Asian market who got the first crack 
at the Dtxpress III/IIIsp back in Nov. 2003, also got first crack at 
the extra cymbal pads in the time frame between then and the release 
here. From what I can tell the kits are being sold as quickly as they 
come in. So you may have to wait it out.

Drumbalaya had some PCY150S and PCY130S in stock a few weeks back, I 
don't know if they still have any left. I saw one other site that 
advertised the PCY130S, but they were not in stock for immediate 
shipment. 

Ed Morin is a member here, maybe he can update us on the available 
issues at his site. Have not seen anybody advertising the PCY130 yet 
though.

OGD

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote:
> Yamaha originially said if the DtxpressIII/IIIsp and the Dtxtreme 
IIS 
> were selling like hot cakes, that the sale of individual components 
> would be delayed. Folks in the Asian market who got the first crack 
> at the Dtxpress III/IIIsp back in Nov. 2003, also got first crack 
at 
> the extra cymbal pads in the time frame between then and the 
release 
> here. From what I can tell the kits are being sold as quickly as 
they 
> come in. So you may have to wait it out.
> 
> Drumbalaya had some PCY150S and PCY130S in stock a few weeks back, 
I 
> don't know if they still have any left. I saw one other site that 
> advertised the PCY130S, but they were not in stock for immediate 
> shipment. 
> 
> Ed Morin is a member here, maybe he can update us on the available 
> issues at his site. Have not seen anybody advertising the PCY130 
yet 

And I've noticed only two places advertising the DTXT2U for sale 
separately, Drumbalaya and Musicians Buy. In general, many of the 
most comprehensive web stores have not yet begun selling the Yamaha 
kits at all, especially the new DTXtreme. In fact, I've seen almost 
as many inert traces of the old DTXtreme as listings of the new one.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "rjwyatt_99" <rjwyatt@n...> wrote:
> > Hey Folks,
> > 
> > I've had an order placed at my local shop (Long & McQuade in 
> Ottawa, 
> > Canada) for some PCY130s and Yamaha doesn't seem to be able to 
give 
> > L+M a reliable availability date (original was early June, now 
the 
> > answer is "don't know").
> > 
> > Does anyone know if the PCY130s are available yet as extra pads 
> (not 
> > part of the DTXpress III kit)?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Rich.
> 
> Rich,
> 
> Yamaha originially said if the DtxpressIII/IIIsp and the Dtxtreme 
IIS 
> were selling like hot cakes, that the sale of individual components 
> would be delayed. Folks in the Asian market who got the first crack 
> at the Dtxpress III/IIIsp back in Nov. 2003, also got first crack 
at 
> the extra cymbal pads in the time frame between then and the 
release 
> here. From what I can tell the kits are being sold as quickly as 
they 
> come in. So you may have to wait it out.
> 
> Drumbalaya had some PCY150S and PCY130S in stock a few weeks back, 
I 
> don't know if they still have any left. I saw one other site that 
> advertised the PCY130S, but they were not in stock for immediate 
> shipment. 
> 
> Ed Morin is a member here, maybe he can update us on the available 
> issues at his site. Have not seen anybody advertising the PCY130 
yet 
> though.
> 
> OGD


OGD/Ed,

Thanks for the info.

Are there any good alternative pads (Pintech etc) that I should be 
considering?  I have a DTXpress II kit and a Roland Octapad II that I 
can connect them to.

Cheers,
Rich.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "rjwyatt_99" <rjwyatt@n...> wrote:
> Are there any good alternative pads (Pintech etc) that I should be 
> considering?  I have a DTXpress II kit and a Roland Octapad II that 
I 
> can connect them to.

Rich,

Pintech offers some excellent Yamaha-compatible cymbals. I'm 
particularly fond of the acrylic Visu-lite line, which are either 
mono or true dual zones. Brian has also told me that Pintech has 
mastered Yamaha's version of the tri-sound cymbal (bell/bow/edge), in 
the zenbal and PC line for now. They may be waiting for NAMM to 
release them, but I should have a NAMM preview from Pintech pretty 
soon.

Ed

Ed said: 

"Brian has also told me that Pintech has mastered
Yamaha's version of the tri-sound cymbal
(bell/bow/edge)"

Hello Ed.

Yeah I bet those cymbals are excellent, but what I
really really want(for some reason those damn spice
girls came to my mind)is a Dtxpress Compatible 3-zone
mesh pad.

I guess that's the only non-yamaha gear I would really
like to add, besides I'd like it to be a 10" pad,
cause anything bigger would look disproportionate to
my taste.

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Theguy Withnoeye 
<theguywithnoeye@y...> wrote:
 
> Yeah I bet those cymbals are excellent, but what I
> really really want(for some reason those damn spice
> girls came to my mind)is a Dtxpress Compatible 3-zone
> mesh pad.
> 
> I guess that's the only non-yamaha gear I would really
> like to add, besides I'd like it to be a 10" pad,
> cause anything bigger would look disproportionate to
> my taste.

Hi guy,

Now that would be a neat trick. A three-zone mesh would not seem to 
be possible on the old rubber two switch/one piezo principle, since 
rim and head are not on a uniform playing surface. If it were to be 
done with two piezos on opposite sides of a mesh-shell metal rim 
(instead of one, in addition to the usual piezo on the head), the 
piezos would have to be isolated from each other like crazy (or some 
sort of special rejection principles would have to be incorporated 
into the module to stop the sonic hemorrhaging). One triple-zone pad 
would need three distinct inputs (and a lot of processing), putting a 
strain on module design and kit size.  Whatever it turned out to be, 
it wouldn't be compatible with the DTXpress as we know it, or any 
other module, and it might be too expensive and inconvenient to do on 
its own terms, if even possible. I'm hardly an electronics expert, so 
maybe Keith or OGD could demolish my reasoning.

Ed