Korg DW8000, Mono/Poly, MS-20...

Don't sure if i understand it correctly what you mean, but is it
possible that you copied the directory (which contains your midi
program) 1:1 from CD onto harddisk? In this case the destination will
be write protected.

=>Explorer, choose the folder which contains the
program=>right-click=>properties, if "write protect" is enabled,
disable it.

Hope this helps

Stef

a_deuteronomy <radam72850@...> schrieb am 15.06.2004, 05:21:16:

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> 
> HI Gang,
> 
> Can anyone offer a little advice?  
> 
> I was using an older pc to run aruggeri's MIDI program but the pc 
> started to crap out on me so I sprung for a newer model. I'm using 
> the same Win98SE software but this sucker just won't load the MIDI 
> software.  I keep getting a message that the program destination is 
> locked. I swear I've looked in the bios a dozen times to see if 
> anything wasn't turned on but it looks ok. Only difference between 
> the 2 pc's is I used a sound blaster card for the older pc but opted 
> to use the 'on-board' sound board and port of the new pc. Outside of 
> this, I'm begining to think the AMD processor of the older pc might 
> be a little more software friendly than the new Intel. 
> 
> Any thoughts on this? Anyone ever have this problem?  ....or a fix? 
> 
> This is a stand alone pc. No internet, just me & my music, some mp3's 
> and recording software.
> 
> Thanks.
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Stef,
Thanks. Yes, I did a folder copy to my HD first but tried opening 
it both ways (from the HD and from the CD drive)to no avail.  The 
write protection on my Win 98 Explorer doesn't exist; there's no tab 
for it when I right click (as it does on my business WinNT Explorer). 
I'm begining to think this is one of those quirks that other users 
have been warning about.

By all accounts I'm still a MIDI novice. I was getting an education 
on the first hook-up I had with my older pc. Too bad it bit the dust. 
If all else fails, does anyone recommend a suitable program that's 
relatively idiot proof and still DW8000 compatible?  When you think 
of it - wow, that's asking alot: relatively new software to run 20+ 
year old hardware...but, you know where I'm coming from. 

 
--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, <st@r...> wrote:
> 
> Don't sure if i understand it correctly what you mean, but is it
> possible that you copied the directory (which contains your midi
> program) 1:1 from CD onto harddisk? In this case the destination 
will
> be write protected.
> 
> =>Explorer, choose the folder which contains the
> program=>right-click=>properties, if "write protect" is enabled,
> disable it.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Stef
> 
> a_deuteronomy <radam72850@h...> schrieb am 15.06.2004, 05:21:16:
> >  
> > HI Gang,
> > 
> > Can anyone offer a little advice?  
> > 
> > I was using an older pc to run aruggeri's MIDI program but the pc 
> > started to crap out on me so I sprung for a newer model. I'm 
using 
> > the same Win98SE software but this sucker just won't load the 
MIDI 
> > software. I keep getting a message that the program destination 
is 
> > locked. I swear I've looked in the bios a dozen times to see if 
> > anything wasn't turned on but it looks ok. Only difference 
between 
> > the 2 pc's is I used a sound blaster card for the older pc but 
opted 
> > to use the 'on-board' sound board and port of the new pc. Outside 
of 
> > this, I'm begining to think the AMD processor of the older pc 
might 
> > be a little more software friendly than the new Intel. 
> > 
> > Any thoughts on this? Anyone ever have this problem? ....or a 
fix? 
> > 
> > This is a stand alone pc. No internet, just me & my music, some 
mp3's and recording software.

> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 

> > 
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I\ufffdm not sure how the command for write protection is called in the 
english version of win98 (i used the German Version).

Sure, a CD -is- write protected by default, so if the program wants 
r/w-Access you will have no success.

Other Version: MS-DOS Commandline, cd c:\yourMidiDirectory, attrib -s *.*

The big question is: what do you understand about "Compatibility to the 
DW8000"? A Midi Program itself has not much to do with the features of 
the connected midi devices. MIDI is a protocol for the communication 
between programs and / or midi devices itself. In fact -every- Midi 
Program is compatible with your DW-8000.

I use since many years Cakewalk Pro Audio 5, in my opinion one of the 
best Midi Sequencers. Easy to use, it is not overloaded with stupid and 
unusual functions like additional "Video Edit" and such crap which is 
often found in many other "Multifunctional" Programs. You can also try 
Fruity Loops (3.5 or above).

The best solution would be buying a complete Atari 1040 with Monitor and 
Midi Sequencer Software at EBay for a few Euro\ufffds (all Ataris above the 
260ST have a integrated Midi Interface, which doesn\ufffdt need the expensive 
GamePort-Adapter used to connect Midi Hardware to the PC). It is a good 
choice if you wanna concentrate yourself to your compositions, cause the 
Volume of a PC can really destroy your nerves. The second advantage is, 
that the current consumption is much fewer than with a PC.

Stef.


a_deuteronomy wrote:

> Stef,
> Thanks. Yes, I did a folder copy to my HD first but tried opening
> it both ways (from the HD and from the CD drive)to no avail.  The
> write protection on my Win 98 Explorer doesn't exist; there's no tab
> for it when I right click (as it does on my business WinNT Explorer).
> I'm begining to think this is one of those quirks that other users
> have been warning about.
>
> By all accounts I'm still a MIDI novice. I was getting an education
> on the first hook-up I had with my older pc. Too bad it bit the dust.
> If all else fails, does anyone recommend a suitable program that's
> relatively idiot proof and still DW8000 compatible?  When you think
> of it - wow, that's asking alot: relatively new software to run 20+
> year old hardware...but, you know where I'm coming from.
>
>
> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, <st@r...> wrote:
> >
> > Don't sure if i understand it correctly what you mean, but is it
> > possible that you copied the directory (which contains your midi
> > program) 1:1 from CD onto harddisk? In this case the destination
> will
> > be write protected.
> >
> > =>Explorer, choose the folder which contains the
> > program=>right-click=>properties, if "write protect" is enabled,
> > disable it.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > Stef
> >
> > a_deuteronomy <radam72850@h...> schrieb am 15.06.2004, 05:21:16:
> > > 
> > > HI Gang,
> > >
> > > Can anyone offer a little advice? 
> > >
> > > I was using an older pc to run aruggeri's MIDI program but the pc
> > > started to crap out on me so I sprung for a newer model. I'm
> using
> > > the same Win98SE software but this sucker just won't load the
> MIDI
> > > software. I keep getting a message that the program destination
> is
> > > locked. I swear I've looked in the bios a dozen times to see if
> > > anything wasn't turned on but it looks ok. Only difference
> between
> > > the 2 pc's is I used a sound blaster card for the older pc but
> opted
> > > to use the 'on-board' sound board and port of the new pc. Outside
> of
> > > this, I'm begining to think the AMD processor of the older pc
> might
> > > be a little more software friendly than the new Intel.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on this? Anyone ever have this problem? ....or a
> fix?
> > >
> > > This is a stand alone pc. No internet, just me & my music, some
> mp3's and recording software.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
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Stefan,

In terms of "compatibility", again you are correct. MIDI protocol is 
meant to be universally compatible with any MIDI device so the 
question of new software running old hardware is more or less 
irrelevant.  But, as I stated, I am a novice to MIDI and I find my 
learning curve is long and slow. Plainly put, I'm from the analog 
age; I simply have not devoted enough time to understanding the 
intricacies of using MIDI.  I DO understand the MIDI concept but my 
frustration at this point is not the MIDI concept. I'm simply 
frustrated with software that I acquired that doesn't want to load on 
my pc. This slows my learning even more. To be honest, I'd be even 
more pleased if the cables jumped out of the box and connected 
themselves and the software loaded itself, asked me what keyboard I 
was using then asked what sounds I would like to hear?  Do you think 
that's asking too much?? (Ha-Haaaa!) ;-) This whole exercise reminds 
me of the time I had a Commodore 64; a technological marvel in its 
day but an unfriendly beast at times.  Wait, I still have one of 
those in my attic!  

Anyway, I'll keep my eye out for the Atari or pick up another old pc 
cheap to see if I can resurrect the success I had on my previous 
computer. (Whew! ...all this trouble for a few new sounds!)

Bob




--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Rinass <st@r...> wrote:
> I´m not sure how the command for write protection is called in the 
> english version of win98 (i used the German Version).
> 
> Sure, a CD -is- write protected by default, so if the program wants 
> r/w-Access you will have no success.
> 
> Other Version: MS-DOS Commandline, cd c:\yourMidiDirectory, attrib -
s *.*
> 
> The big question is: what do you understand about "Compatibility to 
the 
> DW8000"? A Midi Program itself has not much to do with the features 
of 
> the connected midi devices. MIDI is a protocol for the 
communication 
> between programs and / or midi devices itself. In fact -every- Midi 
> Program is compatible with your DW-8000.
> 
> I use since many years Cakewalk Pro Audio 5, in my opinion one of 
the 
> best Midi Sequencers. Easy to use, it is not overloaded with stupid 
and 
> unusual functions like additional "Video Edit" and such crap which 
is 
> often found in many other "Multifunctional" Programs. You can also 
try 
> Fruity Loops (3.5 or above).
> 
> The best solution would be buying a complete Atari 1040 with 
Monitor and 
> Midi Sequencer Software at EBay for a few Euro´s (all Ataris above 
the 
> 260ST have a integrated Midi Interface, which doesn´t need the 
expensive 
> GamePort-Adapter used to connect Midi Hardware to the PC). It is a 
good 
> choice if you wanna concentrate yourself to your compositions, 
cause the 
> Volume of a PC can really destroy your nerves. The second advantage 
is, 
> that the current consumption is much fewer than with a PC.
> 
> Stef.

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--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "a_deuteronomy" <radam72850@h...> wrote:
> If all else fails, does anyone recommend a suitable program that's 
> relatively idiot proof and still DW8000 compatible?  When you think 
> of it - wow, that's asking alot: relatively new software to run 20+ 
> year old hardware...but, you know where I'm coming from. 

I'd like to give a serious nod to SoundQuest's MIDIQuest, which after all these years is still 
being sold, still has Windows and Mac versions (that even run on old 68k Macs with 
System 7) and has the brand new MIDIQuest 9 and XL versions for Win 98, ME, 2000, and 
XP. -And watch for a MacOS X version in the future.

MIDIQuest is a full featured Sound Editor and Librarian program that supports hundreds of 
instruments including our venerable DW8000 keyboards, the EX8000 module, and sister-
models, the DS-8, DSS-1, Poly 800, EX 800, DW6000, etc.

I have a lot of respect for a company that still sells and supports its products on 20 year 
old synths.  MOTU's Unisyn also supports our boards, but they don't have a Windows 
version, and they took years to come out with bug fixes and updates for their Mac 
product.

MIDIQuest 9 is $200, but it supports darn near EVERYTHING under the sun, and just gets 
better every day.  Think of it as a User-Interface and Librarian upgrade for every MIDI 
synth you have now, and every one you'll buy in the future, and it starts looking like a very 
inexpensive upgrade!

I got the old $99 MIDIQuest 4 version for Macintosh, and I run it from a 68040 PowerBook 
190cs. PowerBook 190cs laptops sell all day long on eBay fro $25US.  If someone could 
have told me fifteen years ago that for $125 I could have a full-blown graphical patch 
editor and librarian for my DW8000, that could also run a sequencer and MIDI patchbay, 
I'd have jumped on it.  (Think how much you may have paid for an MEX-8000 expansion 
module!)  Yes, I'm a big fan of this setup, and the PowerBook just sits on a rack shelf next 
to my DW8000, and it also handles editing and librarian duties for my DS-8, My EX8000, 
my Voce DMI-64 MKII, My Roland D-110, My Ensoniq EPSm, my Yamaha TX81Z, my Kawai 
K3m.  It's a STEAL!

Check it all out at http://www.squest.com

> I'd like to give a serious nod to SoundQuest's MIDIQuest, which 
after all these years is still being sold, still has Windows and Mac 
versions (that even run on old 68k Macs with System 7) and has the 
brand new MIDIQuest 9 and XL versions for Win 98, ME, 2000, and XP.
<snip>  It's a STEAL!
> 
> Check it all out at http://www.squest.com

Thanks for the testimonial. I'm checking it out as I speak. I'm tired 
of fooling around with hard to manage 'shareware'. No doubt this adds 
to my learning frustration. I appreciate the vote of confidence from 
a happy user.