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Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS BO kit for Epson 1400

2010-08-31 by Andrew Sharpe

From a limited amount of research, it appears that the 2200 has a 4
picoliter droplet size. The 1400 has a 1.5 picoliter droplet size, so
even the BO on the 1400 will most likely be smoother than the BO on the
2200. Certainly the extra inks will help, and reduce the possibility of
microbanding, but I get pretty damn good results out of one Eboni ink in
the 1400, and I believe others on this list do, as well.

Andrew


On 8/31/2010, "Richard Sintchak" <rich815@...> wrote:

>If it helps at all I having been printing BO with Eboni ink using a Epson
>2200 and was quite happy for a long time.
>
>I have a 1400 now with a full set of Eboni-6 inks and it blows the Epson
>2200 BO results out of the water just using the Epson driver.  Those 5
>dilutions do make a difference, how much vs. 3-dilutions or whatever other
>3-black ink solution you were mentioning I do not know, I just know it
>works.  Trying to stay BO with only one ink just because you are not sure or
>do not see how 5-dilute inks will help any could be making it more
>troublesome than it's worth.  Perhaps you'd save money but the 5 dilute inks
>can only help when subtle shading and gradations are so key to and can make
>all the difference between an ok B&W print and one that really pops and
>makes people go "Wow!"
>
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>Richard S.
>Albany, CA (San Francisco bay area)
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>On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Paul <roark.paul@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "peter843" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I'm thinking of getting a 1400 for just B&W printing.
>> > I thought I would start off with BO printing using one ink.
>> >
>> > The MIS BO kit --
>> >
>> http://www.inksupply.com/refill_cart.cfm?oem_cart=EPS-T0791&printerID=512--
>> > contains one bottle of ink and six empty cartridges.
>> > Does each cartridge have to be filled with ink?
>>
>> > I've been reading about different options for several days
>> > and I find it confusing.
>>
>> There are a number of options, and it can be confusing. I have the MIS
>> optioins I've been involved with listed at
>> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Inkset-list.html
>>
>>
>> > I was thinking of starting with Eb6 but I don't understand the need
>> for 5 dilutions unless it is simply to fill each cartridge.
>>
>> Printing with only a single ink can look very good for many images,
>> assuming the printer is a good one. With a single ink, however, smooth areas
>> of the print may be a little rougher -- more grainy -- than you'd like. The
>> dilute inks allow very smooth printing, with no visible dots at all.
>>
>> One thing to consider is whether you want to print on matte paper or
>> glossy. The Eboni inks are matte only. With an inkset like MIS UT14, you can
>> print on either type without changing inks. You also have control of image
>> tones -- cool to warm. Eboni-6, like all monotone inksets, can print a
>> narrower range of tones based on what paper you choose.
>>
>> The Eb1400 that Sylvain mentions and I use now is written up at
>> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eb1400.pdf
>>
>> MIS does not directly support this inkset because I use a Hewlett Packard
>> Z3100/3200 Vivera photo black ink in it. This gives me the smooth matte
>> printing of Eboni-6 but also the ability to control matte print tones as
>> well as print neutral glossy prints with a simple black only type of curve,
>> using QuadToneRip. While it's a relatively easy inkset to put together, MIS
>> does not sell it as a kit.
>>
>>
>> > I thought it would be simpler to start off with just one ink
>> > but if that means filling 6 cartridges with the same ink then
>> > that doesn't make sense to me either.
>>
>> One ink is easier in some respects, but not others. The Epson driver does
>> not support black only printing. So, while QuadToneRip --
>> http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRoverview.html --
>> is an outstanding product, it's one more thing to learn before you'll
>> actually get good results.
>>
>> So, what I recommend is that people start with an inkset that allows them
>> to simply use the Epson driver. Then you can work your way down the learning
>> curve one step at a time. Eboni-6 as well as UT14 use this approach. The
>> general, one step at a time approach is written up in
>> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eb1400.pdf starting at page 3.
>>
>> Note that if you start with Eboni-6 you can easily add the HP PK neutral
>> glossy ink later.
>>
>> Note also with all black only approaches that some printers do well with it
>> while others may show some microbanding. Multiple inks hide the defects of
>> printers. At the prices we pay for these printers, don't expect perfection
>> in every one and every ink position. For example, my 1400 can print an
>> essentially perfect black only with the HP PK in the Cyan position (at home,
>> but not at 10,000 feet in the Sierras, I discovered this year), but when I
>> tried the HP PK in the yellow position, the printer showed microbanding. I
>> think the 1400 is the best value and an excellent printer, but these
>> machines are not perfect.
>>
>> Good luck with the B&W.
>>
>> Paul
>> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>
>> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/
>>
>>
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