Digital BW, The Print

Hi John..

Paul Roark is the "GURU" on this subject..NO Question about that..
    For me to have a dedicated B&W printer that will give me variable tones from cool to warm with the same inkset, and more warm or cool dependent upon the paper I'm using, and ALSO allow me to print B&W on GLOSSY paper without artifacts is PERFECT..I believe that you would be limited to "matt" finish papers with the 1100 and the MIS "K" dilutions..It depends upon what you are looking for..Prints will probably last longer with THAT inkset..I am not trying to discourage you from either B&W solution..After all, Paul is the "innovator" of BOTH workflows..It's ultimately up to you as to which process to go with..

Just my $2.00 USD's worth..(USD devaluation!)

Eddie



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: johnny999_99 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1100 & 1400 for Two Printer, Gloss and Matte Set Up


    
  Hello Eddie,

  I am pretty good on the basic economics here. For me, the 1400 will cost about $140 more than the 1100 at the moment (I am in Canada but can order the 1100 and pick it up in the US), and a recent post from Paul said, in part, "the 1100 can make the most neutral 100% carbon print that can be made", so I wanted to gain more insight into the options. At MIS prices, $140 buys a fair bit of ink.

  And please, call me "John".

  Thanks

  John

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edward wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote:
  >
  > Johnny..
  > 
  > Remember, your printer is ultimately going to be your LEAST expense in 
  > printing..INKS and paper will be your GREATEST expenses..Think about it..
  > 
  > Here's a 1400 for $199 after the rebate 
  > http://www.atlex.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=C11C655001
  > 
  > Eddie
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "johnny999_99" <johnny999_99@...>
  > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 7:29 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1100 & 1400 for Two Printer, Gloss and Matte Set 
  > Up
  > 
  > 
  > Hello Eddie,
  > 
  > Thanks for the quick response. I have a 1400 on the way for $219 after 
  > rebate, but found an 1100 for $107, so thought it might be a good addition.
  > 
  > John
  > 
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edward wiseman" 
  > <pahts@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Hi Johnny..
  > >
  > > I have 2 1400's..One dedicated to Lyson XG dyes from ink2image.com, 
  > > (GREAT!) , and the other set up for UT 14inks from 
  > > MIS(inksupply.com)..From which you can print Glossy, or MATT..No problems 
  > > and no clogs..Also GREAT..You can usually pick up 1400's for less than 
  > > $200 with rebates..The most I paid was $179 about 3 yrs ago..
  > >
  > > Good Luck!
  > >
  > > Eddie
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: johnny999_99
  > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 5:50 PM
  > > Subject: [Digital BW] 1100 & 1400 for Two Printer, Gloss and Matte Set 
  > > Up
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Hello All (Probably mostly Paul),
  > >
  > > I got a 1400 printer and ordered the UT 14 inkset. But, with the current 
  > > low price on the 1100, I am wondering about a setup where I dedicate one 
  > > of the printers to gloss and one to matte. I am not opposed to just 
  > > running through the UT 14 and refilling, soooo....
  > >
  > > What is the current thought on the ultimate two printer B&W set up? I am 
  > > okay with mixing dyes, I think.
  > >
  > > John
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > >
  > 
  > 
  > 
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