Digital BW, The Print

If you have been shooting for any length of time and printing, you know that light has properties and the surfaces it bounces off of have properties. It all combines together and it’s up to the photographer to make an intellectual decision about how they want to control it; either control before capture or after capture, or both - how the expression of that light spreading the luminance and hues throughout the image. 

 

White, and skin tones happen to be some of the more in your face areas of concern because that’s where we typically judge the right color.  Unless there are trapped particles in the snow, like dirt, soot, etc, the snow should be as color less as water and then it is influenced by the container; in this case the landscape.  

 

Eric Neilsen

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214-827-8301

 

www.ericneilsenphotography.com

SKYPE ejprinter

 

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Yorke
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:58 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Printing Pictures of Snow

 

  

Here is an excellent article on why ice and snow appear blue, 
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/blue-icebergs.shtml. In fact they 
are not blue but light that passes through them is blue. So looking at a 
snowfield with peaks and crests, similar to looking at waves on the ocean, 
you will see light penetrating the snow caps and looking blue, because it is 
blue. Besides that is the fact that we think cold when we think blue so blue 
snow makes scientific and emotional sense.

Craig

Craig Yorke
President
Image House Digital Inc,
5729 McCully Street
Halifax, NS, Canada B3K 1R4
p: 902-482-1823
-----Original Message----- 
From: E.Neilsen
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:24 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Printing Pictures of Snow

There are some absolute colors and then there are emotional colors, and
snow, is the later. But Jimbo points about painting, and white with detail,
well that's what were talking about as printers; knowing how to set a white
with texture and context onto paper. My point early on David was that snow
isn't blue, or warm, or. it can be influenced by the things around it. Is
the snow cooler than a bear but warmer than the open shade on a cloudy
bright day with .. to fill the .. that bounces off the . that reflects on
the.. that . well, looked right.

Eric Neilsen
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226

www.ericneilsenphotography.com
skype me with ejprinter
Let's Talk Photography

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of C D Tobie
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:13 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Printing Pictures of Snow

On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:39 AM, mrjimbo wrote:

> Yup you've got it.. for me sometimes it's hard to explain some things...
after seeing your post one more thing.. .. well one of your fancy tools
:-).. could measure the paper ...then using Photoshop create the separation
necessary for the whites to work with the paper.

Yes, in developing the software for our "fancy tools" I found it necessary
to offer two ramps to white, one that controlled the color as far as it can,
then loses to the tone of the paper white at the last minute (the solutions
most people expect, and fine for most things, but which gets ugly when the
paper tone and the image content aren't harmonious) and one which starts the
adjustment of the white balance further back in the density ramp, so to
avoid any jarring last minute changes.

> Polar bears... yes ...I was privileged to shoot them some years back..
sort of like shooting ducks in a barrel from the snow coach but fun non the
less. I've always loved bears..

I hesitated to even mention polar bears, it being a loaded subject these
days, but slightly buff colored bears against blue-tinted snow is the
clearest example of different tints in near whites that I can come up with
which is in everyone's memory bank. I'm always amused to see images where
someone wasn't happy with the dingy tint in the bear's fur, and "color
corrects" them to a nice bluish white to match the snow. They end up looking
like little old ladies who have used bluing in their hair. Anyone here old
enough to remember hair bluing? I bet you could soak natural watercolor
paper in it, and end up with "whitened" paper...

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager

Datacolor
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Lawrenceville, NJ 08648, USA
609.924.2189
www.datacolor.com

Phone: 207.685.9248
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