Sistan wasn't a wash aid like HCA, but rather a means to convert free silver ions, the same as a toner would do, so there wouldn't be a point to using both Sistan and selenium toner on the same print. We used to offer Sistan toning in my old lab and I still have a case of the concentrate in bottles, but I was never totally sure if it was marketing hype or a really good product because all I had was Agfa's promotional material and never saw an independent study. -----Original Message----- From: jcphoto52 Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:29 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Digital Silver Gelatin Print light fastness results Hi Sistan was a great alternative to HCA (Hypo Clearing Agent) as it was done in one step and if one followed a good archival technique (two fixers, double wash) the results where pretty impressive. Added to that, you could still use selenium toning after the complete treatment to improve the archival quality. I did a lot of selenium, a lot of Sistan but not both. Cheers --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John Castronovo" <jc@...> wrote: > On another note, did you ever hear of a neutral toner which was made by > Agfa > called Sistan? Supposedly it did the same job as selenium toner in that it > stabilized the free silver ions left in the emulsion after processing but > it > didn't change the color of the print. > > ------------------------------------ Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See \u201cGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\u201d in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \u201cOWNER\u201d AND \u201cMODERATORS\u201d OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \u201cOWNER\u201d AND \u201cMODERATORS\u201d OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6267 - Release Date: 04/23/13
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Digital Silver Gelatin Print light fastness results
2013-04-23 by John Castronovo
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