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Re: Mission San Miguel - new sepia webpage photo

2002-03-23 by della ellingson

Paul,

Why? Wouldn't it be easier for you to post it on your
website? You have a nice website already.


-della



> Della,
> 
> I e-mail the information sheet and curves for the
printer and computer (PC
> or Mac) as requested.  The information sheet
explains how the variable-tone
> system works and has the settings for the particular
printer/platform in
> question, among other things.
> 
> Paul
> 
> __________________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: della ellingson
[mailto:dellaellingson@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:58 PM
> To: bw
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel - new
sepia webpage photo
> 
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Do you have these sheets on your website?
> 
> 
> -della
> 
> 
>> Paul,
>> I use a PC running PS6.01
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks a Million
>> Vinny
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...>
>> wrote:
>>> Vinny,
>>> 
>>> Tell me what platform you use -- Mac or PC -- and
> I'll send the
>> info sheet
>>> and curves.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>   From: vinyo88 [mailto:orlandovl@h...]
>>>   Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:09 AM
>>>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
>>>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel -
> new sepia webpage
>> photo
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   ---
>>>   Paul
>>>   Thank you for the info. Your work is beautifull.
> Hope I get there
>>>   soon. Question: where can I get the info sheets
> you mentioned
>>> 
>>>   Vinny
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul
> Roark"
>> <paul.roark@v...>
>>>   wrote:
>>>> Vinny,
>>>> 
>>>> The VM-sepia should work fine in your 1200.
>>>> 
>>>> To use the variable-tone system, you continue to
> edit in
>>>   grayscale.  When
>>>> you are ready to print, save the g/s file,
convert
> the file to
>> RGB,
>>>   load a
>>>> tone curve (the screen will no longer be
WYSIWYG),
> and print
>>>   through the
>>>> Epson driver.  (A Photoshop "action" can make
this
> a one-button
>>>   process.)
>>>> 
>>>> The workflow is described is some detail in
> information sheets I
>>>   have.
>>>> 
>>>> Since MIS only sells the VM-sepia in bulk, you'll
> need to load
>>>   carts or use
>>>> a CFS/CIS.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>   From: vinyo88 [mailto:orlandovl@h...]
>>>>   Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:19 PM
>>>>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
>>>>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel -
> new sepia
>> webpage
>>>   photo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   ---
>>>>   Paul-great print, I am new to this MIS as I
have
> been printing
>>>   with
>>>>   Piezo for about a year now and am wondering if
I
> can use the
>>>   sepia in
>>>>   an Epson 1200 with your curves. If so when and
> where are the
>>>   curves
>>>>   applied. Like I said I am new to the MIS but
> have been
>> thinking
>>>   about
>>>>   tring them. I am not dissatified with the Piezo
> but do not
>> have
>>>   good
>>>>   control over tones.
>>>> 
>>>>   Thanks
>>>>   Vinny
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul
> Roark"
>>>   <paul.roark@v...>
>>>>   wrote:
>>>>> David,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> A beautiful rendition. Stunning light and
> atmosphere.
>>>>>> Well done indeed!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ... How does the inkset you used behave using
> Piezo?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Piezo driver can't vary the tone, and with
> this inkset
>> it
>>>   will
>>>>   give a
>>>>> very bad distribution of tones.  The toner in a
> 3000 is in
>> the
>>>>   yellow cart,
>>>>> which is the lightest gray ink in the Piezo
> system.  So,
>> you'd
>>>   end
>>>>   up with
>>>>> sepia highlights and Piezo color midtones.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could I use Piezo for neutral prints and your
> curves for
>>>>>> alternatives? I currently have only a 3000.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new FS-Neutral and the VM-Sepia use the same
> black and
>> cyan
>>>>   inks.  So,
>>>>> you could simply switch the yellow and magenta
> ink carts,
>> do 3
>>>>   cleaning
>>>>> cycles and have the new inkset pretty much ready
> to go.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or, you could mix the FS-Sepia and use the Piezo
> driver.
>> I've
>>>>   published a
>>>>> rough formula for the FS-sepia.  It is a bit
> stronger than
>> what
>>>   I
>>>>   used for
>>>>> the Mission print, but its gamut can be reduced
> to whatever
>> you
>>>>   like by
>>>>> mixing the inks with standard MIS FS inks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course, it's a lot easier just to use the MIS
> VM-sepia
>> inkset
>>>>   and not
>>>>> mess with changing inks.  The inkset produces a
> very neutral
>>>>   grayscale with
>>>>> the toner withheld.  So, the range of the
> VM-Sepia is real
>>>>   impressive --
>>>>> neutral to sepia and everything in between.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whether you would be happy with the 3000's
driver
> is a
>> question
>>>   of
>>>>   how
>>>>> sensitive you are to dots.  For my 16x20s the
> Epson dots are
>>>>   irrelevant.
>>>>> For small prints, I might not be as happy with
> the 3000 and
>> the
>>>>   Epson
>>>>> driver.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> http://www.PaulRoark.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> removed]
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