Digital BW, The Print

Della,

MIS has the curves and workflows on their website already.  So, all I really
do with e-mail is respond with pre-packaged letters to those who come to me
instead.  (Also I'm running out of free space on my website, and I'm too
cheap to buy more and too lazy to learn much more than the most basic html.)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: della ellingson [mailto:dellaellingson@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:45 AM
To: bw
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel - new sepia webpage photo


Paul,

Why? Wouldn't it be easier for you to post it on your
website? You have a nice website already.


-della



> Della,
>
> I e-mail the information sheet and curves for the
printer and computer (PC
> or Mac) as requested.  The information sheet
explains how the variable-tone
> system works and has the settings for the particular
printer/platform in
> question, among other things.
>
> Paul
>
> __________________
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: della ellingson
[mailto:dellaellingson@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:58 PM
> To: bw
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel - new
sepia webpage photo
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Do you have these sheets on your website?
>
>
> -della
>
>
>> Paul,
>> I use a PC running PS6.01
>>
>>
>> Thanks a Million
>> Vinny
>>
>>
>>
>> In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...>
>> wrote:
>>> Vinny,
>>>
>>> Tell me what platform you use -- Mac or PC -- and
> I'll send the
>> info sheet
>>> and curves.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>   From: vinyo88 [mailto:orlandovl@h...]
>>>   Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:09 AM
>>>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
>>>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel -
> new sepia webpage
>> photo
>>>
>>>
>>>   ---
>>>   Paul
>>>   Thank you for the info. Your work is beautifull.
> Hope I get there
>>>   soon. Question: where can I get the info sheets
> you mentioned
>>>
>>>   Vinny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul
> Roark"
>> <paul.roark@v...>
>>>   wrote:
>>>> Vinny,
>>>>
>>>> The VM-sepia should work fine in your 1200.
>>>>
>>>> To use the variable-tone system, you continue to
> edit in
>>>   grayscale.  When
>>>> you are ready to print, save the g/s file,
convert
> the file to
>> RGB,
>>>   load a
>>>> tone curve (the screen will no longer be
WYSIWYG),
> and print
>>>   through the
>>>> Epson driver.  (A Photoshop "action" can make
this
> a one-button
>>>   process.)
>>>>
>>>> The workflow is described is some detail in
> information sheets I
>>>   have.
>>>>
>>>> Since MIS only sells the VM-sepia in bulk, you'll
> need to load
>>>   carts or use
>>>> a CFS/CIS.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> _______________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>   From: vinyo88 [mailto:orlandovl@h...]
>>>>   Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:19 PM
>>>>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
>>>>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel -
> new sepia
>> webpage
>>>   photo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   ---
>>>>   Paul-great print, I am new to this MIS as I
have
> been printing
>>>   with
>>>>   Piezo for about a year now and am wondering if
I
> can use the
>>>   sepia in
>>>>   an Epson 1200 with your curves. If so when and
> where are the
>>>   curves
>>>>   applied. Like I said I am new to the MIS but
> have been
>> thinking
>>>   about
>>>>   tring them. I am not dissatified with the Piezo
> but do not
>> have
>>>   good
>>>>   control over tones.
>>>>
>>>>   Thanks
>>>>   Vinny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul
> Roark"
>>>   <paul.roark@v...>
>>>>   wrote:
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> You wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A beautiful rendition. Stunning light and
> atmosphere.
>>>>>> Well done indeed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... How does the inkset you used behave using
> Piezo?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Piezo driver can't vary the tone, and with
> this inkset
>> it
>>>   will
>>>>   give a
>>>>> very bad distribution of tones.  The toner in a
> 3000 is in
>> the
>>>>   yellow cart,
>>>>> which is the lightest gray ink in the Piezo
> system.  So,
>> you'd
>>>   end
>>>>   up with
>>>>> sepia highlights and Piezo color midtones.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could I use Piezo for neutral prints and your
> curves for
>>>>>> alternatives? I currently have only a 3000.
>>>>>
>>>>> The new FS-Neutral and the VM-Sepia use the same
> black and
>> cyan
>>>>   inks.  So,
>>>>> you could simply switch the yellow and magenta
> ink carts,
>> do 3
>>>>   cleaning
>>>>> cycles and have the new inkset pretty much ready
> to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, you could mix the FS-Sepia and use the Piezo
> driver.
>> I've
>>>>   published a
>>>>> rough formula for the FS-sepia.  It is a bit
> stronger than
>> what
>>>   I
>>>>   used for
>>>>> the Mission print, but its gamut can be reduced
> to whatever
>> you
>>>>   like by
>>>>> mixing the inks with standard MIS FS inks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, it's a lot easier just to use the MIS
> VM-sepia
>> inkset
>>>>   and not
>>>>> mess with changing inks.  The inkset produces a
> very neutral
>>>>   grayscale with
>>>>> the toner withheld.  So, the range of the
> VM-Sepia is real
>>>>   impressive --
>>>>> neutral to sepia and everything in between.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whether you would be happy with the 3000's
driver
> is a
>> question
>>>   of
>>>>   how
>>>>> sensitive you are to dots.  For my 16x20s the
> Epson dots are
>>>>   irrelevant.
>>>>> For small prints, I might not be as happy with
> the 3000 and
>> the
>>>>   Epson
>>>>> driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> http://www.PaulRoark.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> removed]
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