Mike, where do you get a Stouffer step Guide? t > Austin wrote: >> I don't understand how compressing blacks will make them "better"??? The >> darkest black will still be the darkest black, even if there is more of >> it... > > Me neither, I prefer to have a nice linear distribution of tone. > > Austin, here is my final observation in all this and I think that the bottom > line is that if people are happy with the Piezography output then by all > means use it. > > If one was to compare the printed 21 step tablet that IJM supplies with > their system to a calibrated Stouffer 21 Step Sensitivity Guide I thick my > point will become immediately evident. The 21 Step Stouffer is a quality > control scale that helps the user to determine and standardize the proper > exposure and processing of photo materials. Obviously it is also used in > printing as a check to determine that the full tonal range is profiling > correctly. > > The densities of each of the 21 Step Senitivity Guide each represent > approximately 1/2 - 2/3 stop. The guide is extremely linear and obiously it > would be difficult to fully linearize a inkset and may not be entirely > necessary. If you were to measure and graph the Piezo or MIS FS inks with > their software you would find that the highlights are expanded and the > shadows are compressed a bit. The effect of this in densimetric terms is an > increase in contrast. This is not necessarily a bad thing as it is well > established that an increase in contrast gives the appearance of of denser > blacks. > > In an ideal world, my point is that I want software that produces a linear > distribution of tones. Obviously I do not want a linear distribution within > my print as it would be completely flat and lifeless. Howvere, I want the > tonal range of the 21 step table to be linear so that when I manipulate my > image on the screen and determine the density range along with lightness and > contrast, the printer prints my image exactly as I intended. > > What the Piezo driver is doing is increasing contrast to the benefit of the > image and in 99% of the cases this is acceptable and appreciated by the end > user. But, for a zone system large format photgrapher such as I am, I prefer > to have my materials as linear as possible and let my previsualization of > the scene be translated to the final output without any help. > > I do agree that most people appreciate the extra help. > > Mike > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] For Della On Shadows
2002-03-25 by ternahan
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