Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Message

Re: [Digital BW] For Della On Shadows

2002-03-26 by culturalvisions

Tom,

As far as clogging with FS goes, the problem is diminishing.  
When my MIS VM CFS lost vacuum, the printer sat for over a 
month while MIS lost my order (actually FedEx lost it) and I 
installed the FS continuous flow system.  For the first couple of 
weeks, I was continually checking and cleaning.  Now it has 
evened out and requires less maintainance.

I don't know why someone wanted to change the name of this 
thread.  I love the title.  It reminds me of some film noir name.

Also, off thread, I love the looks of that march exchange list you 
started.  The two images that are posted are beautiful.   I'll post 
soon.

Frank


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "tomoc" <tomoc@y...> 
wrote:
> Frank-
> 
> I'm only questioning this because there have been so few 
complaints 
> of clogs with FS and I, personally, have really had none.
> 
> I wonder if it is the paper? If you are using lots of textured 
paper, 
> some of which flake and shed, could your printer just need a 
good 
> cleaning?
> 
> I don't know enough to get too technical here, but I can't see 
how 
> the dither pattern could be causing a problem. I guess one 
other test 
> for you would be to temporarily switch to the John Wolf FS 
curves 
> (which produce beautiful prints, too) and see if it goes away 
with 
> when you switch back to the Epson driver/dither pattern? 
> 
> Just a thought...
> 
> Tom O'Connell
> 
> TomOC@y...
> www.thomasoconnell.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "culturalvisions" 
> <frank@c...> wrote:
> > Tom,  I am not getting the  nasty clogs with FS that some of 
the 
> > Piezo ink horror stories tell.  But, as you say, I have to do a 
> head 
> > cleaning daily or more often if I am changing papers.  With 
VM I 
> > was cleaning about once a week if that.  I attribute this added 
> > appearance of banding to the Piezo dithering algorithm 
> > compared to Epson's more forgiving fine dithering.  Frank
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "tomoc" 
<tomoc@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "culturalvisions" 
> > > <frank@c...> wrote:
> > > > On a tangential note, I have just changed from MIS VM 
inks to 
> > > > MIS FS.  Shadow detail is increased dramatically and 
> > through a 
> > > > lupe the FS Piezo has a tighter dot pattern.  What's the 
down 
> > > > side?  Many more nozzle checks and cleaning cycles.  
The 
> > Piezo 
> > > > system is pushing my Epson 1160 to its max.  I long for 
the 
> > > > carefree life of Paul's curves and Epson's dithered driver.
> > > > 
> > > > Frank
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Frank-
> > > 
> > > Do you mean that you get piezo-clogs by using the piezo 
> > software with 
> > > MIS inks? I've been using FS for about 5 months now and 
have 
> > never 
> > > had a clog that a single cleaning didn't fix (and darn few of 
> > those).
> > > 
> > > Are you using carts of CIS? I think part of the reason 
everything 
> > is 
> > > working so well for me now is that once I quit piezo inks, I 
> > > installed a CIS...who knows, piezo might have worked on 
CIS, 
> > too.
> > > 
> > > Tom O'Connell
> > > 
> > > TomOC@y...
> > > www.thomasoconnell.com

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.