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Attached please find an e-mail message I sent to my own EPSON user group 
earlier this evening..  The user community needs to stick together on 
these issues, elsewise YAHOO! will divide the groups and marginalize the 
groups they consider truculent..

 
[Keith]
 
 


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Subject: Formal Shot across Yahoo!'s Bow.. -- they may be violating their posted privacy policy
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Laurie Solomon wrote:

>They
>just deliberately thought they could sneak their decisions and action by the
>subscribers, hoping theta they would not notice until it was too late.
>
Well, I've heard from moderators of OTHER Yahoo! groups... It seems that 
when they checked, YAHOO! had altered the settings for availability of 
their membership lists as well, so that any member could read the 
addresses of all the members and harvest the list.,..


If we didn't have 1700 subscribers on this list, how long would it have 
taken us to find out?

And how much $$ do you want to bet that YAHOO!'s big $$ advertisers knew 
in advance that YAHOO! was changing those settings?  If that IS the 
case, there certainly may be a case for a class action suit...

They may, in fact, be violating their own privacy policy..

http://rd.yahoo.com/M=224039.1975712.3458972.1912435/D=cb/P=m1u06r3b11iv0a00/S=1705000001:FOOT/A=1028594/R=0/*http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/

If you feel they may, might I suggest filing a complaint at:
http://www.truste.org/users/users_watchdog.html


There are some very specific rules covering what website operators can 
do with personal info (and the OE ones are MUCH more stringent)..

1)  I'm cc'ing Yahoo on this e-mail openly...

2)   I'm putting YAHOO on notice that they altered terms of service in 
such a way as to violate my personal privacy and the security of my 
personal information,, without my personal knowledge of, nor approval of 
said changes.

3)    I will charge YAHOO! for each and every piece of SPAM I trace to 
one of their client/partner-advertisers.  Even if I lose a US court case 
on this the publicity will hurt! and someone like Kennedy in the EU can 
really make them squirm..

4)    I'm forwarding this to several associates in the Computer press, 
as well as to TRUST-e, with an explanatory note explaining:

a)    the changes in individual user marketing preference settings that 
have WITHOUT notice re-initialized users' preferences to allowed 
unsolicited mailings to them.

b)    the changes to group settings by YAHOO which will allow harvesting 
of e-mail addresses from their groups:

contrast that with their public statement at:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/members/members-03.html


c)    the apparent changes regarding user tracking..

"  Evidently Yahoo can track where you go on the internet and report it
to their "partners".  In order to prevent them from keeping tabs on
you, you'll need to click on the Opt-Out link on your Yahoo Privacy
Page.

US: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html
UK: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/uk/pixels/details.html

Find the "Outside the Yahoo! Network" section and read it.  YOU WILL
NEED TO CLICK THE "CLICK HERE" LINK TO OPT OUT. This will have to be
done from each computer and browser that you use. "


5)    I will ask those of you with time to do forward this to Computer 
Industry press people and YAHOO!  along with a quick personal note of 
complaint as well...

Let's see how YAHOO likes the light of day being shined upon their 
little game...

[Keith]
 
 



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Laurie Solomon wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:MBBBIOJMLEFJIBODCBLHMEKODHAA.laurie@...">
  <pre wrap="">They<br>just deliberately thought they could sneak their decisions and action by the<br>subscribers, hoping�theta they would not notice until it was too late.<br><br></pre>
  </blockquote>
  <div class="moz-signature">Well, I've heard from moderators of OTHER Yahoo!
groups... It seems that when they checked, YAHOO! had altered the settings
for availability of their membership lists as well, so that any member could
read the addresses of all the members and harvest the list.,..<br>
  <br>
  <br>
If we didn't have 1700 subscribers on this list, how long would it have taken
us to find out?<br>
  <br>
And how much $$ do you want to bet that YAHOO!'s big $$ advertisers knew
in advance that YAHOO! was changing those settings? �If that IS the case,
there certainly may be a case for a class action suit...<br>
  <br>
They may, in fact, be violating their own privacy policy..<br>
  <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://rd.yahoo.com/M=224039.1975712.3458972.1912435/D=cb/P=m1u06r3b11iv0a00/S=1705000001:FOOT/A=1028594/R=0/*http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/">http://rd.yahoo.com/M=224039.1975712.3458972.1912435/D=cb/P=m1u06r3b11iv0a00/S=1705000001:FOOT/A=1028594/R=0/*http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/</a><br>
  <br>
If you feel they may, might I suggest filing a complaint at:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.truste.org/users/users_watchdog.html">http://www.truste.org/users/users_watchdog.html</a><br>
  <br>
  <br>
There are some very specific rules covering what website operators can do
with personal info (and the OE ones are MUCH more stringent)..<br>
  <br>
1) �I'm cc'ing Yahoo on this e-mail openly...<br>
  <br>
2)�� I'm putting YAHOO on notice that they altered terms of service in such
a way as to violate my personal privacy and the security of my personal information,,
without my personal knowledge of, nor approval of said changes.<br>
  <br>
3)��� I will charge YAHOO! for each and every piece of SPAM I trace to one
of their client/partner-advertisers. �Even if I lose a US court case on this
the publicity will hurt! and someone like Kennedy in the EU can really make
them squirm.. <br>
  <br>
4)��� I'm forwarding this to several associates in the Computer press, as
well as to TRUST-e, with an explanatory note explaining:<br>
  <br>
a)��� the changes in individual user marketing preference settings that have
WITHOUT notice re-initialized users' preferences to allowed unsolicited mailings
to them.<br>
  <br>
b)��� the changes to group settings by YAHOO which will allow harvesting
of e-mail addresses from their groups:<br>
  <br>
contrast that with their public statement at:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/members/members-03.html">http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/members/members-03.html</a><br>
  <br>
  <br>
c)��� the apparent changes regarding user tracking..<br>
  <br>
"<tt>�<tt> Evidently Yahoo can track where you go on the internet and report
it <br>
 to their "partners".� In order to prevent them from keeping tabs on <br>
 you, you'll need to click on the Opt-Out link on your Yahoo Privacy <br>
 Page.<br>
  <br>
 US: <a href="http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html">http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html</a>
  <br>
 UK: <a href="http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/uk/pixels/details.html">http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/uk/pixels/details.html</a>
  <br>
  <br>
 Find the "Outside the Yahoo! Network" section and read it.� YOU WILL <br>
 NEED TO CLICK THE "CLICK HERE" LINK TO OPT OUT. This will have to be <br>
 done from each computer and browser that you use. "</tt><br>
  </tt><tt> </tt><br>
  <br>
5)��� I will ask those of you with time to do forward this to Computer Industry
press people and YAHOO! �along with a quick personal note of complaint as
well...<br>
  <br>
Let's see how YAHOO likes the light of day being shined upon their little
game...<br>
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