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Re: [Digital BW] Re: The 7 Truths of Digital Printing!

2002-04-05 by Robert Morrison

On 4/4/02 9:18 PM, "tomoc" <tomoc@...> wrote:

> Truth Number 8:
> 
> Don't bother printing it unless it is a Kravit-perfect image!
> 
Well that would certainly save money...but my printer would clog from lack
of use!  I've been seeing a lot of Kravit images lately...and they look
really good...even as jpg's...Michael's been hanging out in the swamp...and
has drum scanned show and tell.

Robert


> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit"
> <michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
>> Many people ask me how is it that my inkjet prints have an "etched"
> look
>> with rich deep blacks and brilliant highlights.  This ability has
> been the
>> culmination and development of a number of traditional and digital
>> techniques that I have come to use over the years. Well, here it
> is, for the
>> very first time I will tell all! ;-)
>> 
>> The following truths are true. They are not open to discussion, nor
> are they
>> the only workflow available. But!, if you want the truth, then here
> it
>> is.....;-)
>> 
>> Truth No. 1
>> 
>> Use great optics! No buts about it, no discussions no
> arguments....period.
>> 
>> Truth No. 2
>> 
>> Shoot your film and learn the Zone system. I am not an advocate of
> testing,
>> but you need to know what your materials will do.
>> 
>> Truth No. 3
>> 
>> Process your negatives in a staining Pyro developer. This is a
> religion and
>> I fully understand that. BUT, you wanted the truth, so here it is.
> Process
>> your negatives in PMK Pyro. The stain acts fills in between the
> grain
>> proportionately, That is, more stain builds up in the areas where
> there is
>> less silver and less stain in areas where there is more silver.
> And, most
>> importantly the negatives will have very high accutance and will
> exhibit
>> strong edge effects. You will see a fine black line along areas of
> tonal
>> change. The negatives will glow and so will your prints. Especially
> so with
>> low light situations, soft light, and fog!
>> 
>> You may not agree, but hey the truth hurts!
>> 
>> Truth No. 4
>> 
>> No matter how good your service bureau tells you their new fangled
> Imacon
>> is, insist on a drum scan. Insist on a flat scan, that is tell them
> you want
>> absolutely NO ADJUSTMENTS. No USM, no contrast adjustments and no
> gamma
>> adjustments. Ask them to scan your PMK Pyro negatives as RGB 48 bit
> files.
>> Have them scan using a native optical resolution resolution of the
> drum
>> scanners that is the smallest resolution that you can use. That is,
> scan at
>> 300dpi at the image size rather than at 4000dpi at 1:1. The reason
> for this
>> is simple, at the lower dpi settings the drum will not scan the
> grain. If
>> you scan at the higher resolutions the drum scanner will adjust the
> aperture
>> and will scan right down into the grain and your Tri-X scan will be
> the most
>> georgeous example of TX grain you have ever seen.
>> 
>> This applies to drum scanners omly and may not be applicable to CCD
>> scanners.
>> 
>> Truth No. 5
>> 
>> Do as many of the tonal, contrast, and gamma adjustments as you can
> in 16
>> bit mode. Use duplicate copies of your images to make selections and
>> adjustment layers. Then you can copy these selections into the 16
> bit file
>> as needed.
>> 
>> Truth No. 6
>> 
>> Buy the best paper you can. Saving $0.50 per sheet and buying Epson
> Archival
>> (Enhanced) Matte is silly and short sighted. The better papers are
> 100%
>> Cotton Rag, acid free and will help you obtain deep dense right
> blacks,
>> lovely midtones and brilliant highlights.
>> 
>> Truth No. 7
>> 
>> Whatever I say here works for me in my studio, in my darkroom, and
> in my
>> town. It may not work for you in yours. Technology is changing so
> fast, that
>> in 15 minutes everything that I just told you make be untrue!
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "btmcelhaney" <kmcelhaney@t...>
>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:25 PM
>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo Pro 24 RIP
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>>>>>> Images from 35mm Tri-X, scanned at 2800 dpi
>>> on Minolta Multi, printed 18x27 on 24x36 Legion Photo Matt.<<<<<<
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That sounds nearly impossible to do while retaining any kind of
>>> quality! What's the secret? I would certainly like to see one of
>>> those exibition prints.
>>> 
>>> Bruce McElhaney
>>> McElhaney Portrait Studio
>>> Livonia, MI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., toomagenta@a... wrote:
>>>> In a message dated 4/2/2002 10:34:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> butchhul@a... writes:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> George,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am also using a 7000 with the IP4 RIP and MIS-FS inks. Just
>>>>> finished framing and hanging a show of prints that I finished
>>> this
>>>>> past weekend.
>>>> Butch,
>>>> Thanks for responding to my query.
>>>> I am glad to hear from others who are using the system and are
>>> happy with it.
>>>> Not too many people chimed in, which I am guessing is a sign of
>>> lack of usage
>>>> rather than dissatisfaction.
>>>> Congratulations on your apparent success. I hope your exhibition
>>> leads to
>>>> many other successes.
>>>> (Must also say, Mike Kravit is both a gentleman and a fine
> source
>>>> of information for any traveling down this particular road.)
>>>> I must agree with you 110% on this point. Not only has he
> offered
>>> his
>>>> knowlege, experience and expertise, but he has generously
> offered
>>> to send a
>>>> sample print so I can put an eyeball on the picture!
>>>> They say that what goes around, comes around, so I hope some of
> the
>>> best
>>>> things that come around come back to  Mike.
>>>> This list is a pleasure to participate in, and I hope that I can
>>> someday
>>>> contribute to it in a positive way.
>>>> ( Images from 35mm Tri-X, scanned at 2800 dpi
>>>> on Minolta Multi, printed 18x27 on 24x36 Legion Photo Matt.)
>>>> Sounds like an amazing feat!
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> George J Kunze
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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