Digital BW, The Print

JMWoo [mailto:wooismyid@...] wrote:

>...the only
>way to get into Piezography BW with the 1280 is the
>purchase their $850 Epson 1280 Continuous Ink Kit. Is
>this true?
>...
>Surely there must be a cheaper way ...

Note that there is a way to use the MIS FS inks with the hextone printers
like the 1280 and get excellent results.  You do need to load your own
carts, however, or set up a CIS.  Note the following message, which includes
my earlier post.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

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 -----Original Message-----
From: janishilesh [mailto:shilesh.jani@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:08 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 1290 with MIS Fullspectrum ink -- Hextone FS
formula


  Paul and Others,

  I have tried, and have now been using the FS-N inks loaded as you
  outlined below, using the epson driver for a few weeks. They produce
  the best b/w prints I have ever made. I used a non partitioned RGB
  curve, which I have e-mailed to Martin Wesley. If appropriate, he may
  want to post the curve. I use the 1280.

  Shilesh Jani

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "kjrslr" <kjrslr@e...>
  wrote:
  > Could you please explain(for us hextone neophytes)how you came up
  > with your ink ditribution, and why you didn't mention "the 2 photo
  > shades" as they are listed on the MIS site, or what they are. I
  have
  > been reading this site, using the original hextones on my 1200,
  > gaining alot of info and becoming confused, all at the same time.
  > Seeing your posts, and reading everyones comments keeps my interest
  > up. I feel I have learned a great deal about inks, papers, and
  > printing in general thanks to this forum. Keep up the great work.
  > Thanks!
  > Keith Randolph
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark
  > <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
  > > Here is the alternative FS-Hextone-Epson-driver ink positions I
  > recommend.
  > > It is based on the following observations.  First, the light inks
  > tend to be
  > > about 60% of the density of the full strength inks.  Happily, the
  > FS/Piezo
  > > magenta is almost exactly 60% the density of the cyan ink.
  Second,
  > the
  > > current Piezo/FS ink mix is actually too light, being designed
  for
  > the old
  > > quad machines.  As such, radical curves are needed to control
  it.
  > These
  > > curves leave artifacts and destroy grayscale.  Thus, a darker ink
  > mix should
  > > be better.
  > >
  > > So, the alternative FS ink mix for the Epson driver is as follows:
  > >
  > > Black -- Use the MIS FS (or VM) black;
  > >
  > > Cyan position -- Use FS cyan-position ink;
  > >
  > > Light cyan position -- Use FS magenta-position ink;
  > >
  > > Magenta position -- Use FS cyan-position ink;
  > >
  > > Light magenta -- Use FS magenta-position ink;
  > >
  > > Yellow -- Use FS yellow-position ink.  (The FS magenta-position
  ink
  > may work
  > > here also.  I'd test both of them.)
  > >
  > > This proposed FS-Epson-Driver inkset can probably be controlled
  > either by
  > > mild partitioning inks or just a simple grayscale workflow.  It
  > might print
  > > rather well with no workflow at all.
  > >
  > > I think there is a very good chance that the FS inks in the above
  > positions
  > > in a 1280 or 1290 will produce the best B&W print possible,
  beating
  > all
  > > current workflows -- Piezo software included.  I hope someone
  will
  > give it a
  > > try and let us know how it works.
  > >
  > > Paul
  > > http://www.PaulRoark.com


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